Re: Critique vs Criticism - Plenary comments

2003-08-05 Thread Michael Richardson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Eric == Eric Rescorla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric I think what's going on here is that there is a disconect between Eric two groups of people: people who think of the IETF as a combination Eric work/vacation opportunity and people who think of

Re: Critique vs Criticism - Plenary comments

2003-08-05 Thread Michael Richardson
The problem with exploration is that it misses the advantage of having us all in the same place - this meeting is about getting hallway conversations going and cross-fertilization. If we all agreed to go to Schwedenplatz, fine... it would work. (And they didn't serve much other than scottish

RE: Critique vs Criticism - Plenary comments

2003-07-21 Thread Soliman Hesham
I think what some people missed was the ability to buy food or coffee between the afternoon and evening session. I don't quite understand why the bar that served food and drink and lunchtime was shut in the evening break. But that encouraged exploration :) With the U1 line

Re: Critique vs Criticism - Plenary comments

2003-07-20 Thread Tim Chown
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 11:46:58AM +0200, Michael Richardson wrote: I actually have no problem with having my room further from the conference centre. When there is an official hotel, I find it annoying to not be in the conference hotel - but with everyone having to travel, it is much more

Re: Critique vs Criticism - Plenary comments

2003-07-19 Thread Michael Richardson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Michael == Michael StJohns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael and the city and people of Vienna, and more as I think it was Michael intended - a critique of the site and facilities as they relate Michael to serving the needs of the IETF. The person

RE: Critique vs Criticism - Plenary comments

2003-07-18 Thread Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
it by ourselves :-) Dan -Original Message- From: Michael StJohns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July, 2003 12:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Critique vs Criticism - Plenary comments Folks - I want to make a further comment about tonight's discussion about the site and site

Critique vs Criticism - Plenary comments

2003-07-17 Thread Michael StJohns
Folks - I want to make a further comment about tonight's discussion about the site and site logistics. I'd like to ask all of you to listen to the discussion less as a bashing of the local host and the city and people of Vienna, and more as I think it was intended - a critique of the site and