Re: There is no proposal on the table for *IETF* incorporation (Was: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-13 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 4:49 PM -0500 9/8/04, Pete Resnick wrote: On 9/8/04 at 4:54 PM -0400, Lynn St.Amour wrote: Should the IETF incorporate as a separate entity... To date, there has been no proposal, in Carl's document or otherwise as far as I know, for *the IETF* to incorporate as a separate entity. There have

Re: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-08 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Carl Malamud wrote: like many things outside the core technical field, these things are hard, and harder than they look, and hard enough that you need a better lawyer. as long as IETF remains an unincorporated association, i think you need every new IESG and IAB member to add their signature to

Re: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-08 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 08 September, 2004 09:21 +0200 Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl Malamud wrote: like many things outside the core technical field, these things are hard, and harder than they look, and hard enough that you need a better lawyer. as long as IETF remains an

Re: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-08 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On onsdag, september 08, 2004 08:55:26 -0400 John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that's exactly why the liability insurance policy held by ISOC covers IETF officials today. Would someone who actually knows or can find out care to comment on whether the insurance would cover such

Re: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-08 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 8:55 AM -0400 9/8/04, John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, 08 September, 2004 09:21 +0200 Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that's exactly why the liability insurance policy held by ISOC covers IETF officials today. Would someone who actually knows or can find out care to

There is no proposal on the table for *IETF* incorporation (Was: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-08 Thread Pete Resnick
On 9/8/04 at 4:54 PM -0400, Lynn St.Amour wrote: Should the IETF incorporate as a separate entity... To date, there has been no proposal, in Carl's document or otherwise as far as I know, for *the IETF* to incorporate as a separate entity. There have been proposals to incorporate a body to deal

Re: There is no proposal on the table for *IETF* incorporation (Was: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-08 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Hi Pete, At 6:17 PM -0400 9/8/04, Margaret Wasserman wrote: To date, there has been no proposal, in Carl's document or otherwise as far as I know, for *the IETF* to incorporate as a separate entity. There have been proposals to incorporate a body to deal with IETF administrative functions (like

Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Here's a version of what the explosive bolts could look like. Firstly, note that the IETF (*not* the ISOC) signed an MOU with ICANN on March 1st 2000. Fred Baker signed it as IETF Chair, I signed it as IAB Chair, and Mike Roberts signed it as ICANN President. The IETF lawyer and the ICANN lawyer

Re: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-07 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian E Carpenter) writes: ... Firstly, note that the IETF (*not* the ISOC) signed an MOU with ICANN on March 1st 2000. Fred Baker signed it as IETF Chair, I signed it as IAB Chair, and Mike Roberts signed it as ICANN President. The IETF lawyer and the ICANN lawyer were

Re: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-07 Thread Carl Malamud
like many things outside the core technical field, these things are hard, and harder than they look, and hard enough that you need a better lawyer. as long as IETF remains an unincorporated association, i think you need every new IESG and IAB member to add their signature to all current MoU's