Fairness and changing rules

2006-01-31 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Harald" == Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Harald> Sam, let me put it this way: Harald> Changing the rules in the middle of the process is Just Harald> Plain Stupid. We've done that too many times to count. Hi. I've been perplexed by this comment. I'd l

Re: Fairness and changing rules

2006-01-31 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Sam Hartman writes: > I'd like to understand why changing the rules in the middle of a > process is a bad idea. They aren't rules if they can be changed even as they are being applied. If you want to make rules, you have to be willing to abide by them. Changing the rules even as they are applie

Re: Fairness and changing rules

2006-01-31 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Sam, trying to avoid pointing at persons, despite the fact that a specific person is at the heart of the current discussion.. your 3 points are very valid reasons for avoiding rule changes, but I think you miss the point I was trying to make. The IESG was asked to choose between two alte

Re: Fairness and changing rules

2006-01-31 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Harald" == Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Harald> Sam, trying to avoid pointing at persons, despite the fact Harald> that a specific person is at the heart of the current Harald> discussion.. your 3 points are very valid reasons for Harald> avoiding

Re: Fairness and changing rules

2006-01-31 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 02:19 01/02/2006, Sam Hartman wrote: > "Harald" == Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Harald> Sam, let me put it this way: Harald> Changing the rules in the middle of the process is Just Harald> Plain Stupid. We've done that too many times to count. I am n

Re: Fairness and changing rules

2006-02-02 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:31:08PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > Harald> I do not want the IETF to craft rules for "X", and then > Harald> re-craft them for "Y", "Z" and "W" because hastily crafted > Harald> rules did not fit the next situation to come along. I want > Harald> the rule