Re: How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-07 Thread Danny McPherson
Having been on several nomcoms, served as chair, and as a liaison/advisor, I fully agree with Fred. I think we see a thread such as this (i.e., re: confidentiality of nomcom feedback, willing nominees, non-willing nominees, who's re-upping, who's not, etc..) pretty much every year about this tim

Re: How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-07 Thread Frank Ellermann
Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: > The way I see it though is that the process and the mechanisms > were not discussed within the community. Conventional wisdom > says that security protocols/mechanisms designed without proper > peer review tend to be broken. A few people I have spoken to > seem to th

Re: How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-06 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
At 06:59 PM 11/5/2006, Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: Confidentiality and the Nomcom has always been an interesting topic to me. Some want everything to be secretive. I think that the more stuff we try to keep secret the harder it is. Personally, the holy grail is potential negative feedback the

Re: How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-06 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Fred Baker wrote: On Nov 5, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: Frankly the feedback does not need to seen by anyone other than the voting members IMO. What do others think? So your point is that the chair of the nominating committee should not know who the candidates are? You

Re: How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-06 Thread Fred Baker
On Nov 5, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: Frankly the feedback does not need to seen by anyone other than the voting members IMO. What do others think? So your point is that the chair of the nominating committee should not know who the candidates are? You might consider the t

Re: How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-05 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
I am not (yet) going to get into who specifically has access to what kind of information and how, but instead asking a meta question about whether or not people care about confidentiality, and to what extent. I would also like to bring back the attention to the subject of my email "the informa

Re: How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-05 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
At 08:12 PM 11/5/2006, Frank Ellermann wrote: Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: > It might be worthwhile for the community to know the feedback > is known to > * the voting members of the nomcom > * nomcom current and past year's chair > * the 3 liaison members > * the tools team (some of them are IE

Re: How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-05 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
on 2006-11-05 18:59 Lakshminath Dondeti said the following: [snip first part of message] > It might be worthwhile for the community to know the feedback is known to [snip other parties] > * the tools team (some of them are IETF contributors) This is incorrect. The feedback is encrypted (wi

Re: How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-05 Thread Frank Ellermann
Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: > It might be worthwhile for the community to know the feedback > is known to > * the voting members of the nomcom > * nomcom current and past year's chair > * the 3 liaison members > * the tools team (some of them are IETF contributors) > * whoever maintains the nom

How confidential is the information we share with the Nomcom?

2006-11-05 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
Confidentiality and the Nomcom has always been an interesting topic to me. Some want everything to be secretive. I think that the more stuff we try to keep secret the harder it is. Personally, the holy grail is potential negative feedback the community may want to provide to the nomcom. In