Re: IASA Finances - an attempt at some uplevelling

2005-01-11 Thread Brian E Carpenter
All of which suggests to me that Harald's contentious last sentence should simply be removed. btw I agree with all his other suggested changes. Brian John C Klensin wrote: --On Monday, 10 January, 2005 14:07 -0500 Leslie Daigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I believe Harald meant

IASA Finances - an attempt at some uplevelling

2005-01-10 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
We have had a number of issues that circle around the financial model for the IASA. Some of these have been fairly nitpick-level, others have been more matters of principle, others are really hard to tell. In order to get the discussion to a place where we can reach some conclusions, it might

Re: IASA Finances - an attempt at some uplevelling

2005-01-10 Thread Jari Arkko
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: The IASA model of finances, as presented in the BCP, is this one: Money comes from a number of places, which can be grouped roughly as: (snip) Similarly, the money goes to just a few places X - Money spent in support of the IETF Y - Money left by the end of the year

Re: IASA Finances - an attempt at some uplevelling

2005-01-10 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, 10 January, 2005 16:31 +0100 Harald Tveit Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Any IASA account balance, any IETF-specific intellectual property rights, and any IETF-specific data and tools shall also transition to the new entity. Other terms of removal

Re: IASA Finances - an attempt at some uplevelling

2005-01-10 Thread Scott Bradner
Specific suggestion for text changes from harald Reserves Section 2.2 bullet 7, current: 8. The IASA shall establish a target for a reserve fund to cover normal operating expenses and meeting expenses in accordance with prudent

Re: IASA Finances - an attempt at some uplevelling

2005-01-10 Thread Leslie Daigle
John, I believe Harald meant ISOC-appointed members of the IAOC, and not folks on the IAOC who happen to be ISOC members. (Hopefully, everyone on the IAOC will be an ISOC member...). That said, I'm not entirely comfortable with the proposal. I don't want to belabour it, because I don't want to

Re: IASA Finances - an attempt at some uplevelling

2005-01-10 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Apologies for the bad parse. When I said non-ISOC member, I intended to say the members of IAOC who are not representing ISOC, not not a member of ISOC. Having the ISOC President have a formal role in representing the IETF when discussing how to dissolve the relationship between ISOC and the

Re: IASA Finances - an attempt at some uplevelling

2005-01-10 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, 10 January, 2005 14:07 -0500 Leslie Daigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I believe Harald meant ISOC-appointed members of the IAOC, and not folks on the IAOC who happen to be ISOC members. (Hopefully, everyone on the IAOC will be an ISOC member...). That said, I'm not