Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-11 Thread Kevin C. Almeroth
There is an AODV test running but it requires, uh, running AODV. See: http://moment.cs.ucsb.edu/aodv-ietf It actually has nothing to do with the evil that is MSFT's ad hoc. And, it also works if you get everything configured correctly. However, it is currently shutdown until the wireless

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-11 Thread Nathaniel Borenstein
It sounds to me like this at least as likely to be caused by cluelessness as malice. If we eventually want a world where networks this big are everywhere, we can't afford to blame the users for cluelessness when those networks break, especially since the average user in that future will be at

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-11 Thread Carsten Bormann
As for those people who run around with their cards in ad hoc mode, yes, especially here, they should know better. One problem may be those helpful features where the OS is switching to ad-hoc when there is no base station to be seen. In Mac OS X 10.2, you can disable that (switch off Allow

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:55:59 EST, Nathaniel Borenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And if it's this easy to mess up maliciously, well maybe we should be commissioning an IETF police force that will develop the tools to track down the offending laptops in real time and pour diet Coke in

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
: Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time It sounds to me like this at least as likely to be caused by cluelessness as malice. If we eventually want a world where networks this big are everywhere, we can't afford to blame the users for cluelessness when those networks break

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-11 Thread Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Kevin C. Almeroth wrote: But the result is independent of whether people are running in ad hoc mode... it has to do with AP tuning, etc. I just noticed that where I'm sitting in the lobby, one can pick up 2 networks: ietf58 and hhonors. Neither one charges for SSH

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-11 Thread Tim Chown
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IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-10 Thread Brett Thorson
We currently have three external routes, all are up. Wireless has been deployed to the hotel, and we are still working to get good signal coverage to the Brit's Pub. We have a solution that will start to get executed later this afternoon. That should dramatically increase the coverage in

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-10 Thread Roland Bless
Hi, We have been getting some reports of rooted machines (IETF Attendee machines, not IETF NOC Machines) that are scanning and causing a lot of traffic on the network. IP Addresses are: 130.129.139.106 130.129.139.203 Please check your machines for these addresses. If they are yours,

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-10 Thread Ole J. Jacobsen
I also have seen ietf58 as an ad-hoc network (or Computer to Computer Network as Apple calls it) in several locations today, including here in Salon C. I have to wonder if this is just cluelessness or malicious behaviour, someone trying to steal packets. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-10 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
Roland - I'll just note that when I ran the AODV code earlier today, I had to hand reset noth my mode my essid (redhat linux/ wiconfig) after stopping the test code - this may not be totally transparent to folks and they may reset the ssid but miss the mode setting... Lucy E. Lynch

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time Hi, We have been getting some reports of rooted machines (IETF Attendee machines, not IETF NOC Machines) that are scanning and causing a lot of traffic on the network. IP Addresses

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-10 Thread shogunx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brett Thorson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time Hi, We have been getting some reports of rooted machines (IETF Attendee machines, not IETF

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-10 Thread Roland Bless
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:06:28 -0800 (PST) Lucy E. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll just note that when I ran the AODV code earlier today, I had to hand reset noth my mode my essid (redhat linux/ wiconfig) after stopping the test code - this may not be totally transparent to folks and they

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-10 Thread Pekka Savola
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Is a very bad behavior from some people that it seems don't know how to use their own computer. I will say that this people should pay 5 times the normal fee in the next IETF meeting, because the big number of troubles that they create to the

Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time

2003-11-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: Re: IETF58 - Network Status - 12:05PM Local Time On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Is a very bad behavior from some people that it seems don't know how to use their own computer. I will say that this people should pay 5