Re: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-02-01 Thread Scott Brim
I propose that we eliminate global cutoff dates and let each WG establish any cutoff dates it needs for its own purposes. In general we strive to have the principal forum for discussion be WG mailing lists as opposed to the physical meetings themselves. That should be the default case. Most WGs

Re: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-02-01 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 01 February, 2008 15:31 -0500 Scott Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose that we eliminate global cutoff dates and let each WG establish any cutoff dates it needs for its own purposes. In general we strive to have the principal forum for discussion be WG mailing lists as

Re: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-02-01 Thread Eric Rescorla
At Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:51:10 -0500, John C Klensin wrote: (2) I think an early cutoff for individual documents that do not directly relate to IETF WG or Standards-track work is useful because it keeps the noise level down for all of us.So a WG-based cutoff might need to be accompanied by a

Re: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-02-01 Thread Cullen Jennings
On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:51 PM, John C Klensin wrote: (3) Cullen's note emphasized the reading problems faced by ADs who are trying to stay on top of all of the documents in their areas. I think we need to be very careful about that, balancing permitting the ADs to function/manage effectively

Re: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-02-01 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 1 feb 2008, at 22:14, Eric Rescorla wrote: FWIW, I'm not an AD but I, like Cullen, try to read every draft for every WG I attend, so workload is a definite issue. Exactly. It's good to have a few weeks between the point where you need to have your own drafts done and the point where you

Re: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-01-31 Thread Cullen Jennings
Inline On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:56 AM, John C Klensin wrote: Hi. The current cutoff schedule for Internet Drafts dates from my time on the IESG (i.e., is ancient history). It was conditioned on the pre-IETF rush and the observation that the Secretariat, at the time, required a

RE: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-01-18 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 18 January, 2008 13:18 -0600 Eric Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, Your description of the reasons for having the draft sub- mission dead-lines may agree with original thinking that went into setting them, initially. However, there were collateral benefits that

Re: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-01-18 Thread Fred Baker
On Jan 18, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: A possible approach would be to use the cutoff dates as deadlines for drafts to be placed on the WG agenda - i.e. allow automated posting to continue unabated, but only allow late drafts to be discussed in the meeting if so agreed during

Re: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-01-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2008-01-19 09:04, Fred Baker wrote: On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Eric Gray wrote: For the people who participate in a fair number of working groups in the IETF, requiring early posting allows for a greater likelihood that they will be able to at least skim each new draft sometime

Re: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-01-18 Thread Fred Baker
On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Eric Gray wrote: For the people who participate in a fair number of working groups in the IETF, requiring early posting allows for a greater likelihood that they will be able to at least skim each new draft sometime before setting up their laptop at the

RE: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-01-18 Thread Eric Gray
: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:06 PM Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates Hi. The current cutoff schedule for Internet Drafts dates from my time on the IESG (i.e., is ancient history). It was conditioned on the pre-IETF rush and the observation that the Secretariat

RE: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-01-18 Thread Eric Gray
DÁccord. -- Eric Gray Principal Engineer Ericsson -Original Message- From: John C Klensin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:47 PM To: Eric Gray Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates Importance: High --On Friday, 18

Internet Draft Submission cutoff dates

2008-01-18 Thread John C Klensin
Hi. The current cutoff schedule for Internet Drafts dates from my time on the IESG (i.e., is ancient history). It was conditioned on the pre-IETF rush and the observation that the Secretariat, at the time, required a sufficiently long time to get drafts posted in the pre-meeting rush that,

REVISED Internet-Draft Submission Cutoff Dates for the 70th IETF Meeting in Vancouver, BC, Canada

2007-10-12 Thread IETF Secretariat
There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 70th IETF Meeting in Vancouver, BC, Canada: November 12th: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., version -00) Internet-Draft Submissions All initial Internet-Drafts (version -00) must be submitted by Monday, November 12th at 9:00 AM ET (14:00

Internet-Draft Submission Cutoff Dates for the 62nd IETF Meeting in Minneapolis, MN

2005-02-04 Thread ietf-secretariat
There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 62nd IETF Meeting in Minneapolis, MN: February 14th: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., -00) Internet-Draft Submissions All initial Internet-Drafts (-00) must be submitted by Monday, February 14th at 9:00 AM ET. As always, all initial

Internet-Draft Submission Cutoff Dates for the 62nd IETF Meeting in Minneapolis, MN

2005-01-21 Thread ietf-secretariat
There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 62nd IETF Meeting in Minneapolis, MN: February 14th: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., -00) Internet-Draft Submissions All initial Internet-Drafts (-00) must be submitted by Monday, February 14th at 9:00 AM ET. As always, all initial

Internet-Draft Submission Cutoff Dates for the 61st IETF Meeting in Washington, DC, USA

2004-10-15 Thread ietf-secretariat
There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 61st IETF Meeting in Washington, DC, USA: October 18: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., -00) Internet-Draft Submissions All initial Internet-Drafts (-00) must be submitted by Monday, October 18 at 9:00 AM ET. As always, all initial

Internet-Draft Submission Cutoff Dates for the 61st IETF Meeting in Washington, DC, USA

2004-10-08 Thread ietf-secretariat
There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 61st IETF Meeting in Washington, DC, USA: October 18: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., -00) Internet-Draft Submissions All initial Internet-Drafts (-00) must be submitted by Monday, October 18 at 9:00 AM ET. As always, all initial

Internet-Draft Submission Cutoff Dates for the 61st IETF Meeting in Washington, DC, USA

2004-09-17 Thread ietf-secretariat
There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 61st IETF Meeting in Washington, DC, USA: October 18: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., -00) Internet-Draft Submissions All initial Internet-Drafts (-00) must be submitted by Monday, October 18 at 9:00 AM ET. As always, all initial

Internet-Draft Submission Cutoff Dates for the 60th IETF Meeting in San Diego, CA

2004-07-06 Thread Internet-Drafts
There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 60th IETF Meeting in San Diego, CA: July 12th: Cutoff Date for Initial Internet-Draft Submissions (new documents) All initial Internet-Drafts (-00) and updates to initial Internet-Drafts must be submitted by Monday, July 12th, at 09:00 ET.