Re: Last Call: (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-22 Thread t.petch
I find this document utterly bizarre and think it would seriously damage the Internet to publish it. The idea that ipv6 should be regarded as normal, as of equal standing to ipv4 is fine, the sort of statement that the IAB should make, or have made, as an RFC or in some other form. But this I-D c

Re: Last Call: (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-22 Thread George, Wesley
From: "t.petch" To: Reply-to: daedu...@btconnect.com Subject: Re: Last Call: (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard I find this document utterly bizarre and think it would seriously damage the Internet to publish it. WEG] well, I find the

Re: Last Call: (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-22 Thread ned+ietf
> I find this document utterly bizarre and think it would seriously damage the > Internet to publish it. This seems a little ... extreme. The document appears to me to be Mostly Harmless, with all that implies. > The idea that ipv6 should be regarded as normal, as of equal standing to ipv4 > is

Re: Last Call: (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-22 Thread Brian E Carpenter
+1 to Ned. I can't see why this draft seems to make some people go defensive - it isn't saying "IPv4 is evil" or anything silly like that, it's just saying "IPv6 is the future". RFC1122v6 is another matter entirely. We clearly aren't ready for it yet, but draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis is a step on

Re: Last Call: (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-23 Thread Tim Chown
On 22 Aug 2011, at 23:53, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > +1 to Ned. I can't see why this draft seems to make some people > go defensive - it isn't saying "IPv4 is evil" or anything silly > like that, it's just saying "IPv6 is the future". > > RFC1122v6 is another matter entirely. We clearly aren't r

Re: Last Call: (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-23 Thread Eric Rosen
This document really wants to be a BCP that makes deployment and strategy recommendations. But for some reason it has been disguised as a standards track document (i.e., as a protocol specification), and the result is that RFC 2119 language is being used in a very peculiar way. I think this is wh

Re: Last Call: (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-24 Thread t.petch
inline - Original Message - From: "George, Wesley" To: ; "t.petch" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:12 PM From: "t.petch" To: Reply-to: daedu...@btconnect.com I find this document utterly bizarre and think it would seriously damage the Internet to publish it. WEG] wel