Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign (CryptographicMessageSyntax(CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-15 Thread Sam Hartman
My individual opinion is that these changes are a matter of style, and that the current text is fine. If there is strong support for these changes I can enter an rfc editor note. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign (CryptographicMessageSyntax(CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-15 Thread Peter Sylvester
by error I send the following only to Russ 1: When more than one signature is present, the successful validation | of one signature associated with a given signer is usually treated | as a successful signature by that signer. in this text is sued twice but with different meanings, maybe this

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign (CryptographicMessageSyntax (CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-15 Thread Russ Housley
Please see the text in the updated document. This was changed in the most recent version: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign-03.txt Russ At 09:50 AM 2/15/2007, Peter Sylvester wrote: 1 - The document goes beyond specifying how to determine if a message

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign (CryptographicMessageSyntax(CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-15 Thread Peter Sylvester
To the second point: Denis: you describe that the text concerning how to determine one signer with multiple signature is weak, nobody has disagreed, the text says 'ought to be' 'usually' etc. but then you start a new discussion about a single signature verification which is IMO not related

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign (CryptographicMessageSyntax(CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-15 Thread Peter Sylvester
1 - The document goes beyond specifying how to determine if a message is validly signed by a given signer. The core of the dispute is the following proposed sentence: | When the collection represents more than one signature, the successful | validation of one of signature fr

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign (CryptographicMessageSyntax(CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-14 Thread Denis Pinkas
Sam, >> "Russ" == Russ Housley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Russ> Denis: I do not consider these to be new comments. You made >Russ> them during WG Last Call, and there was considerable >Russ> discussion on the S/MIME WG mail list. In the end, you were >Russ> unable to gain

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign (CryptographicMessageSyntax(CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification) to Proposed Standard

2007-02-09 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Denis" == Denis Pinkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Denis> Sam, >>> "Russ" == Russ Housley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russ> Denis: I do not consider these to be new comments. You made Russ> them during WG Last Call, and there was considerable Russ> discussion on th