Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-17 Thread Simon Josefsson
Harald Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3.3.a.E gives this authorization, but excluding patents. There seems to be disagreement about that. Is there support for updating BCP 78 to clarify the above? There is, in the form of approving -outbound and -inbound. See resolution of issues

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 10:05:35PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 34 lines which said: And as you very well know, the IPR working group is fixing the problem. Is working on the problem. It is not the same thing. Nothing indicate that it will be fixed,

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X(ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 04:10:40PM -0800, Randy Presuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 31 lines which said: Section 5.2 of RFC 3978 addresses the issue, giving the necessary incantation and using MIBs and PIBs as an example. You really need to be more specific because I'm hopelessly

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-15 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:47:06 +0100 Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 10:05:35PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 34 lines which said: And as you very well know, the IPR working group is fixing the problem. Is working

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard (Vacaciones)

2007-01-15 Thread Sergio Anibal Landro
Me encontraré de vacaciones desde el Lunes 15 de Enero hasta el Viernes 2 de Febrero inclusive. Saludos, Sergio. ietf 01/12/07 19:15 The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following documents: - 'Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X) Representation of

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-15 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I would refer you to the IETF Trust FAQ on RFC copyright, http://trustee.ietf.org/24.html, point 6 and point 9. Brian On 2007-01-14 12:31, Simon Josefsson wrote: Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And as you very well know, the IPR working group is fixing the problem. I think

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X(ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-15 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Randy Presuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:57 AM Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X(ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard ... Section 5.2 of RFC 3978 addresses

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X(ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-14 Thread Simon Josefsson
Randy Presuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi - From: Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel M. Halpern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X(ASN.X

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-14 Thread Simon Josefsson
Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And as you very well know, the IPR working group is fixing the problem. I think a pointer to the archives there would have sufficed (or at least a mention of the discussion and status). The mailing list archives doesn't contain a clear description

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-13 Thread Simon Josefsson
Hi! These documents contains normative ASN.1 modules which, if I understand the documents correctly, is typically included in implementations of this standard. Is that correct? The modules contain this notice: -- Copyright (C) The IETF Trust (2006). This version of -- this ASN.1 module

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-13 Thread Joel M. Halpern
Simon, you are mixing several issues in your note, including strictly legal issues and personal preferences. Firstly, it is clear that you (and every other implementor using this document) needs the ability to extract and use the ASN.1 include in the document. That is already provided for in

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-13 Thread Simon Josefsson
Joel M. Halpern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon, you are mixing several issues in your note, including strictly legal issues and personal preferences. I bring up only one issue here: Can implementers extract and use the ASN.1 module for their implementations legally? Firstly, it is clear

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X(ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-13 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joel M. Halpern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X(ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard ... Firstly, it is clear

Re: Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:38:16 +0100 Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel M. Halpern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon, you are mixing several issues in your note, including strictly legal issues and personal preferences. I bring up only one issue here: Can implementers extract and

Last Call: draft-legg-xed-asd (Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X)) to Proposed Standard

2007-01-12 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following documents: - 'Abstract Syntax Notation X (ASN.X) Representation of Encoding Instructions for the XML Encoding Rules (XER) ' draft-legg-xed-asd-xerei-03.txt as a Proposed Standard - 'Encoding Instructions