Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-29 Thread Ted Faber
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 06:34:09PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 04:19:28PM -, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote a message of 8 lines which said: Based on what I've seem on the IGF list, people with an extraordinary amount of free time. In some cases

Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
I believe it is relevant here since IETF is currently being discussed in depth on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list (one of the biggest forums of the civil society about Internet governance). The thread is long and, for those who are not subscribed, can be found here on the Web:

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Tim Bray
Who are these people? -T On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote: I believe it is relevant here since IETF is currently being discussed in depth on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list (one of the biggest forums of the civil society about Internet

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 08:51:46AM -0700, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote a message of 20 lines which said: Who are these people? -T They may ask the same thing about you :-)

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread John Levine
In article CAHBU6iui0_n_=3p85msgdcswc3johl5f0hcbycmip04fvuo...@mail.gmail.com you write: Who are these people? -T Based on what I've seem on the IGF list, people with an extraordinary amount of free time. R's, John

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2012-05-28 16:51, Tim Bray wrote: Who are these people? -T politicallyIncorrect So far, fortunately, the Internet Governance Forum and its associated talking shops add up to a no-op. The danger is always there that they will persuade government reps in the ITU or other UN bodies to take

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 04:19:28PM -, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote a message of 8 lines which said: Based on what I've seem on the IGF list, people with an extraordinary amount of free time. In some cases (RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case), IETFers have some free time, too...

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 05:20:10PM +0100, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote a message of 32 lines which said: So far, fortunately, the Internet Governance Forum Hold on, the Internet Governance Caucus I was talking about (a civil society loosely connected group) is not the

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2012-05-28 17:38, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 05:20:10PM +0100, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote a message of 32 lines which said: So far, fortunately, the Internet Governance Forum Hold on, the Internet Governance Caucus I was talking

Re: Long discussion about IETF on the Internet Governance Caucus mailing list

2012-05-28 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, May 28, 2012 18:38 +0200 Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote: So far, fortunately, the Internet Governance Forum Hold on, the Internet Governance Caucus I was talking about (a civil society loosely connected group) is not the Internet Governance Forum (an