Re: Mail lost yesterday

2013-08-30 Thread Jari Arkko
SM: I certainly agree that in incidents like this, a timely notification is in order. (Of course to the extent that the outage itself allows us to do that. Sometimes the outage or the queue that has built up during the outage delays sending a notification.) And we normally do send

Re: Mail lost yesterday

2013-08-30 Thread Mary Barnes
I will also add that when I requested it Steve sent me a list that indicated who sent what messages to the mailing lists that I moderate. That was really helpful as I could ping folks to resend and I was able to resend those that I had sent myself, so it wasn't too onerous to recover given that we

Re: Mail lost yesterday

2013-08-30 Thread SM
Hi Jari, At 01:05 30-08-2013, Jari Arkko wrote: I certainly agree that in incidents like this, a timely notification is in order. (Of course to the extent that the outage itself allows us to do that. Sometimes the outage or the queue that has built up during the outage delays sending a

Re: Mail lost yesterday

2013-08-30 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 31/08/2013 02:26, SM wrote: ... The nit is why is the IETF still using PDT. I assure you that things were operationally much worse when the Secretariat was using EDT. Really - the service level has improved continuously over the last eight years. Of course things can always be better, and

Re: Mail lost yesterday

2013-08-30 Thread Yoav Nir
On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:26 PM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: The nit is why is the IETF still using PDT. Because we don't want to get into a religious war of GMT vs UTC.

Mail lost yesterday

2013-08-29 Thread SM
Hello, Could whoever from the IETF leadership who is responsible for the matter please comment about the mail loss incident? I previously commented about the visibility of IETF services. That aspect of the IETF lacks transparency [1] and leaves it to the user to guess what is wrong at

Re: Mail lost yesterday

2013-08-29 Thread Bob Hinden
SM, The place to report IETF operational problems is ietf-act...@ietf.org. I forwarded your email. Bob On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:50 PM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: Hello, Could whoever from the IETF leadership who is responsible for the matter please comment about the mail loss incident?

Re: Mail lost yesterday

2013-08-29 Thread SM
Hello, Thanks to Bob Hinden for the quick response. What follows is a general comment. My message was not a report about an operational problem. It was about the lack of a timely notification, and maybe an explanation if anyone deems that appropriate, about these problems to the IETF