Re: Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-25 Thread Fred Baker
At 11:11 AM 3/20/2003 -0800, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: give everyone who shows up at an IETF meeting one token, good for 6 months. require 10 tokens to submit an internet-draft. the point of posting the draft is to have the discussion you're proposing. What happens in some quarters, as you

Re: Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-20 Thread Tim Chown
So you get it back when your I-D reaches PS :) Since we all put our hands up to pay $70 more in fees, will someone be collecting that on the way out from the plenary? tim On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 06:56:47AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's incredibly unrealistic, but don't you really

Re: Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-20 Thread Dave Crocker
Tim, Wednesday, March 19, 2003, 9:48:11 PM, you wrote: TC Since we all put our hands up to pay $70 more in fees, will someone be TC collecting that on the way out from the plenary? 1. The percentage of hands raised was high, but not 100% 2. The body being polled was self-selected among people

Re: Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-20 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
adaptation of an idea that came up for controlling mike time give everyone who shows up at an IETF meeting one token, good for 6 months. require 10 tokens to submit an internet-draft. allow people to give tokens to others - anyone who can convince 10 people that something is worth posting

Re: Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-20 Thread Michael Hammer
That would mean that only those with deep pockets could buy at auction and therefore be able to submit any drafts, assuming every starts at zero. Everyone else could go home. Seems to run counter to the whole IETF spirit. You might as well be trading airline miles for IETF tokens. Hmmm...

Re: Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-20 Thread John Stracke
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: anyone who gets an RFC published gets 10 tokens; anyone who gets a standards-track document published gets 20. Suddenly there's even more pressure to put everybody in the WG on the list of authors. :-) --

Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-19 Thread Spencer Dawkins
The speaker in front of me said charge people a small fee for Internet-Drafts, and someone muttered charge them by the page. It's incredibly unrealistic, but don't you really want to charge more for Internet-Drafts on dumb ideas? Spencer __ Do you

Re: Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-19 Thread Pekka Savola
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Spencer Dawkins wrote: The speaker in front of me said charge people a small fee for Internet-Drafts, and someone muttered charge them by the page. It's incredibly unrealistic, but don't you really want to charge more for Internet-Drafts on dumb ideas? Or I-D's which

RE: Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-19 Thread aki . niemi
It's incredibly unrealistic, but don't you really want to charge more for Internet-Drafts on dumb ideas? The problem with this is that dumb ideas sometimes later turn out to be bright ideas. Should the author in those cases get refunded, perhaps with interest? Cheers, Aki