ISOC [Re: My views on the Scenario O C]

2004-09-25 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Sam, Sam Hartman wrote: Bob == Bob Hinden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob The ISOC is certainly not perfect and has had serious Bob problems in the past. These problems have been solved and as Bob far as I can tell the ISOC is working well. I would note Bob that the ISOC was

Re: My views on the Scenario O C

2004-09-25 Thread Scott W Brim
I agree completely with Bob. I want to point out one issue where vigilance will be important: On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 12:39:53PM -0700, Bob Hinden allegedly wrote: Housing the IETF administrative activity in ISOC seems to me to be a much simpler solution to our administrative problems and will

Re: My views on the Scenario O C

2004-09-25 Thread Erik Huizer
Scott, ISOC was not and is not responsible in any way for the activities performed by CNRI for the IETF. Your remark suggests that ISOC let the IETF down on non-technical issues that the IETF was expecting to handle. I am not aware of any and I'd be interested to know if there are. As Brian

Re: My views on the Scenario O C

2004-09-25 Thread Scott W Brim
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 01:57:50PM +0200, Erik Huizer allegedly wrote: Your remark suggests that ISOC let the IETF down on non-technical issues that the IETF was expecting to handle. Erik, that was not my intention. What I want to avoid is the feeling that the friendliness of who we deal with,

Re: My views on the Scenario O C

2004-09-25 Thread Erik Huizer
I just wanted to avoid the wrong impression. Building in strict guarantees makes sense. Erik --On zaterdag 25 september 2004 17:09 -0400 Scott W Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 01:57:50PM +0200, Erik Huizer allegedly wrote: Your remark suggests that ISOC let the IETF down on

My views on the Scenario O C

2004-09-24 Thread Bob Hinden
My current view is that the housing the IETF administrative activity in ISOC (Scenario O) is the best of the two approaches. Note: I have no position in the ISOC nor am a current member (or maybe they do not have members these days). My employer is a corporate member. I was a member when the

Re: My views on the Scenario O C

2004-09-24 Thread Sam Hartman
Bob == Bob Hinden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob The ISOC is certainly not perfect and has had serious Bob problems in the past. These problems have been solved and as Bob far as I can tell the ISOC is working well. I would note Bob that the ISOC was initially set up by