Re: Not developing protocols

2001-02-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:29:17 PST, Kevin Farley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > IMHO, a successful WG is one whereby it has been successful been > > adopted > > and used by the industry. > > -James Seng > Like NAT? NAT has been adopted and used by the industry. There's no consensus on whether it w

Re: Not developing protocols

2001-02-12 Thread Kevin Farley
> > IMHO, a successful WG is one whereby it has been successful been > adopted > and used by the industry. > > -James Seng > > Like NAT? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.

Re: Not developing protocols

2001-02-11 Thread Vernon Schryver
>... We, at IETF, sometimes > forget the process is there for a purpose. Particularly, this process > foster the review among technical peers so as to produce a standard > which is scalable, robust and actually usable. A committee, specifically including an

Re: Not developing protocols

2001-02-11 Thread James Seng/Personal
I like to chip in my 5cent worth. I think it is sometimes worthwhile to rethink on the process to a standards vs the intention of that process. We, at IETF, sometimes forget the process is there for a purpose. Particularly, this process foster the review among technical peers so as to produce a s

Re: Not developing protocols

2001-02-11 Thread Ofer Inbar
Vernon Schryver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Ofer Inbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > "If farmers can be paid not to grow wheat, why can't IETF > > > WGs be paid not to develop protocols?" > > > > We can. Just go work for a company that is willing to send you to > > IETF on their time & money

Re: Not developing protocols

2001-02-11 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Ofer Inbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "If farmers can be paid not to grow wheat, why can't IETF > > WGs be paid not to develop protocols?" > > We can. Just go work for a company that is willing to send you to > IETF on their time & money, and wants you to disrupt certain IETF > protocol wor

Re: Not developing protocols

2001-02-11 Thread Ofer Inbar
> Thought for the day: > > "If farmers can be paid not to grow wheat, why can't IETF > WGs be paid not to develop protocols?" We can. Just go work for a company that is willing to send you to IETF on their time & money, and wants you to disrupt certain IETF protocol work. I'm sure many of us ha

Not developing protocols (was: Re: An alternative to TCP (part 1))

2001-02-09 Thread John Stracke
Bernard Aboba wrote: > Thought for the day: > > "If farmers can be paid not to grow wheat, why can't IETF > WGs be paid not to develop protocols?" Because that would result in *more* protocols, not fewer, as many of us would suddenly run off and start developing our own. :-) -- /==