Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-28 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-11-26, at 22:11, ext Henrik Levkowetz wrote: I agree on the general sentiment of *one* deadline time. I'd prefer it expressed in a TZ which iCalendar files and most calendar applications understand right off, though. UTC sounds good to me. Let me put in a plug for

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-27 Thread Jari Arkko
Phillip, Looks to me as if the cut off is start of business for the RFC Editor. That makes sense to me, no matter how much you try to change the cut off you can't make it any later than the point where the editor needs to start work. No, the RFC Editor does not edit drafts after the cutoff,

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Spencer Dawkins wrote: Laksminath's note is more detailed, but it's roughly what I was thinking at about 2 PM EST today :-( I'm sure there's an opportunity for us to pick a time zone for IETF 71 cutoffs! you mean like UTC? I'd note that all the reference times in this message were in the

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Spencer Dawkins wrote: Laksminath's note is more detailed, but it's roughly what I was thinking at about 2 PM EST today :-( I'm sure there's an opportunity for us to pick a time zone for IETF 71 cutoffs! you mean like UTC? :-) OK, guilty. My point was that the cutoff time seemed to be

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
From my point of view, it can be any timezone as long as the cutoff time is the same in all cases. While we are on topic, I propose to use AOE as defined by IEEE (I think 802.16). regards, Lakshminath On 11/26/2007 10:33 AM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: Spencer Dawkins wrote: Laksminath's note

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Eric Rescorla
At Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:39:03 -0800, Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: From my point of view, it can be any timezone as long as the cutoff time is the same in all cases. While we are on topic, I propose to use AOE as defined by IEEE (I think 802.16). AOE == UTC-1200. UTC seems much more natural.

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
Just in case you are not familiar with AOE, it stands for Anywhere on Earth (See http://www.ieee802.org/16/aoe.html) regards, Lakshminath On 11/26/2007 10:39 AM, Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: From my point of view, it can be any timezone as long as the cutoff time is the same in all cases.

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
Yeah, I can deal with any TZ actually (AOE is one suggestion and I think most intuitive, UTC is another), but can't handle the varying cutoff times :). On why AOE is intuitive, everyone gets to treat the deadline with their own TZ substituted for AOE (the actual deadline for most people would

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
On 2007-11-26 19:55 Lakshminath Dondeti said the following: Yeah, I can deal with any TZ actually (AOE is one suggestion and I think most intuitive, UTC is another), but can't handle the varying cutoff times :). On why AOE is intuitive, everyone gets to treat the deadline with their

RE: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
] Sent: Mon 26/11/2007 1:33 PM To: Joel Jaeggli Cc: IETF Discussion Subject: Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing Spencer Dawkins wrote: Laksminath's note is more detailed, but it's roughly what I was thinking at about 2 PM EST today :-( I'm sure there's an opportunity for us

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: Lakshminath Dondeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just in case you are not familiar with AOE, it stands for Anywhere on Earth (See http://www.ieee802.org/16/aoe.html) Cool concept: the deadline [time] has not passed if, anywhere on earth, the deadline date has not yet passed. I like it.

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-26 Thread Spencer Dawkins
And, just to keep Henrik sane, it looks like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_time_zones#UTC.E2.88.9212.2C_Y should be a real time zone that calendaring systems could understand (as opposed to AOE) - did I get this right? Spencer From: Lakshminath Dondeti [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-23 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
Hi, I just found out that I missed the deadline for early-bird registration and payment. I registered early, but was planning to pay just in time, but alas the deadline has passed. I was thinking that the deadline is later in the day, end of the business day Eastern time. We have

Re: Our deadlines are dizzyingly complex and confusing

2007-11-23 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Laksminath's note is more detailed, but it's roughly what I was thinking at about 2 PM EST today :-( I'm sure there's an opportunity for us to pick a time zone for IETF 71 cutoffs! Thanks, Spencer Hi, I just found out that I missed the deadline for early-bird registration and payment.