Participation per Region of Authoring IETF documents vs Marketing

2013-05-27 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Each IETF document mentions the authors place address (I may suggest adding region, as a categorised by IETF), but not sure of history statistics of how many IETF-documents produced by authors in South America, Africa, or Asia, or others. I think it is a good marketing start for IETF to get more

Re: Participation per Region of Authoring IETF documents vs Marketing

2013-05-27 Thread Eggert, Lars
On May 27, 2013, at 12:10, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > Each IETF document mentions the authors place address (I may suggest > adding region, as a categorised by IETF), but not sure of history > statistics of how many IETF-documents produced by authors in South > America, Africa, or Asia, or others.

Re: Participation per Region of Authoring IETF documents vs Marketing

2013-05-27 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
On 5/27/13, Eggert, Lars wrote: > On May 27, 2013, at 12:10, Abdussalam Baryun > wrote: >> Each IETF document mentions the authors place address (I may suggest >> adding region, as a categorised by IETF), but not sure of history >> statistics of how many IETF-documents produced by authors in Sout

Re: Participation per Region of Authoring IETF documents vs Marketing

2013-05-27 Thread Eggert, Lars
On May 27, 2013, at 15:31, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > On 5/27/13, Eggert, Lars wrote: >> On May 27, 2013, at 12:10, Abdussalam Baryun >> wrote: >>> Each IETF document mentions the authors place address (I may suggest >>> adding region, as a categorised by IETF), but not sure of history >>> stati

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2013-05-27 Thread Arturo Servin
But also remember, writing I+D is just part of the equation. We also need reviewers and comments. Regards, as On 5/27/13 7:51 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote: > On May 27, 2013, at 12:10, Abdussalam Baryun > wrote: >> Each IETF document mentions the authors place address (I may suggest >> addin

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2013-05-28 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Rather than saying "someone should do this" on the list, you could, you know, do the work. A -- Andrew Sullivan Please excuse my clumbsy thums. On 2013-05-27, at 9:31, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > On 5/27/13, Eggert, Lars wrote: >> On May 27, 2013, at 12:10, Abdussalam Baryun >> wrote: >>

Re: Participation per Region of Authoring IETF documents vs Marketing

2013-05-28 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
by looking into the statistics of I-Ds and RFCs, it is strange that we get sometimes high rate in the I-D going in IETF from some regions but the success rate of I-Ds to become RFCs is very low (5- 50). So the only region that is producing RFCs with high rate (about 200 per year) is North America e

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2013-05-29 Thread Eggert, Lars
Hi, On May 28, 2013, at 19:46, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > by looking into the statistics of I-Ds and RFCs, it is strange that we get > sometimes high rate in the I-D going in IETF from some regions but the > success rate of I-Ds to become RFCs is very low (5- 50). which IDs and RFCs are you basi

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2013-05-29 Thread Jari Arkko
>> by looking into the statistics of I-Ds and RFCs, it is strange that we get >> sometimes high rate in the I-D going in IETF from some regions but the >> success rate of I-Ds to become RFCs is very low (5- 50). There seems to be a general pattern where new participants first participate and/or

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2013-05-29 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 18:20 +0300 Jari Arkko wrote: > There seems to be a general pattern where new participants > first participate and/or produce IDs but it takes some time to > produce RFCs. For instance, for a while it was the case that > there was a growing number of proposals and p

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2013-05-29 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Hi Lars, It was for Asia region, I thought its rate is between (5 - 50) rfc/year for last 3 years. Basing on; The first figure of RFCs is the Comparison of countries over the year [1], the second, is the Distribution of number of RFCs per continent [2], the third is publication rate per year [3].

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2013-05-29 Thread Mark Nottingham
I would take those numbers with a HUGE grain of salt (as Jari documents). For example, I've lived in Australia since 2006, and yet am only listed as producing RFCs in the USA. Regards, On 30/05/2013, at 10:39 AM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > Hi Lars, > > It was for Asia region, I thought its

Re: Participation per Region of Authoring IETF documents vs Marketing

2013-05-29 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
On 5/29/13, Jari Arkko wrote: > >>> by looking into the statistics of I-Ds and RFCs, it is strange that we >>> get >>> sometimes high rate in the I-D going in IETF from some regions but the >>> success rate of I-Ds to become RFCs is very low (5- 50). > > There seems to be a general pattern where n

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2013-05-29 Thread l.wood
han affiliation). Lloyd Wood http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/ From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nottingham [m...@mnot.net] Sent: 30 May 2013 01:45 To: Abdussalam Baryun Cc: ietf Subject: Re: Participation per Region of Authoring

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2013-05-29 Thread Jari Arkko
Lloyd, > http://www.arkko.com/tools/recrfcstats/d-contdistr.html > (Jari, what time period is that across? Oceania doesn't rate a mention…) "Recent RFCs" is anything from RFC 5400 onwards. An arbitrary definition. And Oceania is listed under "Australia" per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contine

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2013-05-30 Thread Jari Arkko
Mark: > I would take those numbers with a HUGE grain of salt (as Jari documents). Indeed > For example, I've lived in Australia since 2006, and yet am only listed as > producing RFCs in the USA. My apologies. I added a data item to recognise you… Jari

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2013-05-30 Thread Mark Nottingham
Thanks :) On 30/05/2013, at 5:06 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > > Mark: > >> I would take those numbers with a HUGE grain of salt (as Jari documents). > > Indeed > >> For example, I've lived in Australia since 2006, and yet am only listed as >> producing RFCs in the USA. > > My apologies. I added

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2013-05-30 Thread Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)
On May 30, 2013, at 2:45 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > I would take those numbers with a HUGE grain of salt (as Jari documents). I appreciate Jari's effort and use his page extensively. However, I agree taht geography data should be taken with a grain of salt. In my case I created several docum