Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-24 Thread Ray Pelletier
The IETF is proposing dates for its meetings being held 2008 through 2010. Those dates can be found at http://www.ietf.org/meetings/future_meetings0810.html The dates will be evaluated and selected to meet the IETF's standards development objectives, while avoiding conflicts with SDOs and oth

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-24 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fecha: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:41:48 -0500 > Para: "ietf@ietf.org" > Asunto: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates > > The IETF is proposing dates for its meetings being held 2008 through > 2010. Those dates

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-24 Thread Joel Jaeggli
ROTECTED]> Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fecha: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:41:48 -0500 Para: "ietf@ietf.org" Asunto: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates The IETF is proposing dates for its meetings being held 2008 through 2010. Those dates can be found at http://www.ietf.org/meetin

RE: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-25 Thread Ray Plzak
om: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:53 AM > To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ > Cc: ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates > > yOn Fri, 24 Mar 2006, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > > > Hi Ray, > > &

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-25 Thread Brian E Carpenter
OTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:53 AM To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates yOn Fri, 24 Mar 2006, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi Ray, I know is difficult already to manage to avoid clashes, but I think is unfair and discriminat

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
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Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-25 Thread Brian E Carpenter
006 1:53 AM To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates yOn Fri, 24 Mar 2006, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi Ray, I know is difficult already to manage to avoid clashes, but I think is unfair and discriminatory to have all the RIRs and *NOGs in

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-25 Thread Carl Malamud
reason for > > inequity. Or doesn't the IETF care about the Internet in the developing > > regions of the world? > > > > Ray > > > > > >>-Original Message----- > >>From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent:

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
e about the Internet in the developing regions of the world? Ray -Original Message- From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:53 AM To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates yOn Fri, 24 Mar 2006, JORDI

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-27 Thread Tim Chown
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:38:03AM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > I don't think the analogy holds, for a number of reasons. (As a matter > of interest, there were about 6 participants out of 350 with addresses > in Europe at the March 1991 IETF meeting, and about 19 out of 530 > in March 1993

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-27 Thread Scott W Brim
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 04:18:42PM +0100, Tim Chown allegedly wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:38:03AM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > > I don't think the analogy holds, for a number of reasons. (As a matter > > of interest, there were about 6 participants out of 350 with addresses > > in Eu

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-28 Thread bmanning
bout the Internet in the developing > >regions of the world? > > > >Ray > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:53 AM > >>To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ >

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-28 Thread bmanning
Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:27:22AM -0500, Scott W Brim wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 04:18:42PM +0100, Tim Chown allegedly wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:38:03AM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > > > > I don't think the analogy holds, for a number of reasons. (As a matter > > > of interes

RE: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-28 Thread Fleischman, Eric
An alternative to coordinating meeting dates with a growing list of peer entities is to simply say that the IETF will meet on the second week of March, July, and November every year. Such a stance would help everyone to schedule. [Note: these weeks are suggestions only, select a permanent variant o

RE: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-28 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Fleischman, Eric wrote: An alternative to coordinating meeting dates with a growing list of peer entities is to simply say that the IETF will meet on the second week of March, July, and November every year. Such a stance would help everyone to schedule. [Note: these weeks ar

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-28 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
IL PROTECTED]>, "ietf@ietf.org" , JORDI > PALET MARTINEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Asunto: RE: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Fleischman, Eric wrote: > >> An alternative to coordinating meeting dates with a growing list of pee

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-28 Thread Joel Jaeggli
ric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: Carl Malamud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ietf@ietf.org" , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Asunto: RE: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Fleischman, Eric wrote: An alternative to coordinating meeting dates wi

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-31 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Joel, Joel Jaeggli wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: I think is clear that we need to fix the meeting dates, and that should be done in advance so we avoid clashes with other events and we can negotiate with hotels and sponsors ahead of time enough to make it cheaper.

RE: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-31 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > It works the other way round. We fix our dates 2 or 3 years > in advance, avoiding clashes with other organizations and > international holidays as much as possible. Site selection > inevitably comes later, which means local holidays may

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-03-31 Thread Dave Crocker
Also note that local holidays may be city specific not country specific. It's quite impractical to consider city holidays three years out. Not if the city is chosen 2-3 years out. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking _

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-04-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Dave Crocker wrote: Also note that local holidays may be city specific not country specific. It's quite impractical to consider city holidays three years out. Not if the city is chosen 2-3 years out. That really isn't likely for a meeting of our size; you need to be in the 5000+ range for

Re: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting dates

2006-04-07 Thread Dave Crocker
Brian E Carpenter wrote: choosing a venue 1-2 years out is about right, in terms of putting sponsors and space availability together. Presumably you mean hosts, not sponsors. The idea behind moving to a sponsors model is to decouple their money from any specific venue. In which case, they