Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-27 Thread Russ Housley
- Original Message - From: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Harald Alvestrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:24 AM Subject: Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...) On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 04:

Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-26 Thread TS Glassey
ursday, October 23, 2008 2:24 AM Subject: Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...) On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 04:51:23PM +0200, Harald Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 23 lines which said: (That said, the RFC Editor's work on these will cost the

The cost of a RFC (Was: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-23 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Harald Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 21 lines which said: > IETF homepage -> IASA -> Budget and Finance -> Budget -> 2008 I prefer RFC 3986 :-) > Expenses: RFC Editor/Edit Svcs

Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-23 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 04:51:23PM +0200, Harald Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 23 lines which said: (That said, the RFC Editor's work on these will cost the IETF a known amount of dollars. Known by who? How an ordinary IETF participan

Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-23 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 04:51:23PM +0200, Harald Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 23 lines which said: > (That said, the RFC Editor's work on these will cost the IETF a > known amount of dollars. Known by who? How an ordinary IETF participant could find out "The Real True Cost

Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-22 Thread Doug Otis
On Oct 22, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Tim Polk wrote: Stephen, I will concede that most of the excitement about IBE and other Weil Pairing based cryptography has been in the research community. However, the technology has matured and products are slowly emerging. (I am also loath to write off

Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-22 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Stephen Farrell wrote: So while I don't strongly object to these as informational RFCs, I do wonder why, if only one implementation is ever likely, we need any RFC at all. Its not like these docs describe something one couldn't easily figure out were there a need, given that the (elegant but not

Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-22 Thread Tim Polk
Stephen, I will concede that most of the excitement about IBE and other Weil Pairing based cryptography has been in the research community. However, the technology has matured and products are slowly emerging. (I am also loath to write off any technology that attempts to address our enro

Re: Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-21 Thread Stephen Farrell
So while I don't strongly object to these as informational RFCs, I do wonder why, if only one implementation is ever likely, we need any RFC at all. Its not like these docs describe something one couldn't easily figure out were there a need, given that the (elegant but not especially useful) crypt

Publication track for IBE documents (Was Second Last Call...)

2008-10-21 Thread Tim Polk
Okay, I fat fingered this one. The S/MIME WG actually forwarded these documents with a recommendation that they be published as Informational. I intended to respect that consensus, but for one reason or another, they ended up in the Tracker marked for Standards track. It is clear that the