Re: Question about draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-12

2009-11-18 Thread ned+ietf
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:54:35PM +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > > Since we're (presumably) trying to write rules that will > > work when common sense has failed, it seems prudent to have > > a clear path for disputes of an unknown nature. > I get the sentiment, and I think it comes from

Re: Question about draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-12

2009-11-18 Thread John Levine
>If we get to the point where the IESG, the RFC Editor, and the IAB >can't among them work out a sensible compromise (because common sense >has failed), then we have much bigger problems than getting things >published on the Independent Submissions track. +1 We're software and network guys (and g

Re: Question about draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-12

2009-11-18 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:54:35PM +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Since we're (presumably) trying to write rules that will > work when common sense has failed, it seems prudent to have > a clear path for disputes of an unknown nature. I get the sentiment, and I think it comes from a noble im

Re: Question about draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-12

2009-11-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2009-11-18 11:15, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > So I'd find it really useful to know what problem this dispute > resolution mechanism is actually supposed to solve. Since we're (presumably) trying to write rules that will work when common sense has failed, it seems prudent to have a clear path for

Question about draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-12 (was: I-D ACTION:draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-10.txt)

2009-11-17 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Dear colleagues, On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 04:47:44PM -0500, John C Klensin wrote: > I wish that that IESG (or some few of its members; I don't know) > were not insisting on even that much, but there seem to be > nothing that can be done about it without the loss of much more > time (remember that