At 06:06 PM 8/3/2000 -0400, Frank Solensky wrote:
>Just before the afternoon break, one of the conference center staff was
>wheeling a cart out towards the food area and was carrying a walkie-talkie.
>The voice on the other end was saying, "Hope you can get through, JD: they're
>gonna jump on you.
At 11:27 PM 8/4/00 +0930, Andrew Rutherford wrote:
>Well, it wasn't necessarily Ireland. It might have been the UK. :-)
Probably. Apologies to the folks in Ireland. I won't apologize to the
leprechauns, though- they speak Gaelic.
At 08:05 PM 8/4/00 +, Bob Braden wrote:
>Elevators are fundamentally inimical to the IETF, becauseelevators don't
>scale.
an elevator doesn't scale the building?
d/
> Elevators are fundamentally inimical to the IETF, because
> elevators don't scale.
Scalable elevators have been designed, and I believe, prototyped.
However it appears that buildings don't scale well enough to make
scalable elevators worthwhile.
Keith
On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 08:05:44PM +, Bob Braden wrote:
>
> Elevators are fundamentally inimical to the IETF, because
> elevators don't scale.
But they are an established transport. We are not suppose to
create a new one when an old one will serve the purpose.
> Bob Braden
Elevators are fundamentally inimical to the IETF, because
elevators don't scale.
Bob Braden
> It would really really be cool if the Pub/Cafe is also on 802.11.
>
> (Wait, that will means everyone will stay whole day at the pub then to
> attend _some_ WG for their 802.11)
A couple of people mentioned to me that the availability of 802.11
connectivity (and presumably the wired connectio
At 00:07 -0400 4/8/00, Fred Baker wrote:
>At 10:21 AM 8/3/00 -0500, Matt Crawford wrote:
>>Also heard at the IETF: In the plenary session the chair
>>denied the existence of Ireland.
>
>News to me. Care to give me the context?
I believe Matt's referring to the comment that there is one English
s
James Seng wrote:
> It would really really be cool if the Pub/Cafe is also on 802.11.
>
> (Wait, that will means everyone will stay whole day at the pub then to
> attend _some_ WG for their 802.11)
"Can I get a hum on whether there are snakes under my chair?"
--
/===
At 10:21 AM 8/3/00 -0500, Matt Crawford wrote:
>Also heard at the IETF: In the plenary session the chair
>denied the existence of Ireland.
News to me. Care to give me the context?
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 06:06:54PM -0400, Frank Solensky wrote:
> Just before the afternoon break, one of the conference center staff was
> wheeling a cart out towards the food area and was carrying a walkie-talkie.
> The voice on the other end was saying, "Hope you can get through, JD: they're
>
Just before the afternoon break, one of the conference center staff was
wheeling a cart out towards the food area and was carrying a walkie-talkie.
The voice on the other end was saying, "Hope you can get through, JD: they're
gonna jump on you."
Lloyd,
I thought that the code was that if there were no objections you
had a (at least passive) support.
/Loa
Lloyd Wood wrote:
>
> I imagine that the worst thing about IETF'ers in lifts is that when
> the lift door opens you can't just ask e.g. 'going up?'.
>
> You have to ask 'going up?',
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 04:11:20PM +0100, Parkinson, Jonathan wrote:
> How's about a set of buttons that just says High, higher, even higher etc
> etc ...
Oh... So now we're getting into fuzzy logic? :-)
> Jon
> Where there is a will there is a way ;-)
[...]
Mike
--
"Steven M. Bellovin" wrote:
> And of course, security folks want the buildings to be O(2^1024) floors
> high, so that we can see some *useful* primes...
Let's see, at about 3 meters per floor...2^1024 is about 10^(0.3*1024), or about
10^306 floors, so the building would be about 3*10^303 kilomet
One after thoughts of IETF.
It would really really be cool if the Pub/Cafe is also on 802.11.
(Wait, that will means everyone will stay whole day at the pub then to
attend _some_ WG for their 802.11)
-James Seng
I believe the correct name is Eire... ;->
Jim
"Matt Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/08/2000 16:21:31
Sent by: "Matt Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Fred Baker
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Stephenson-Dunn/C/HQ/3Com)
Subject: Re: Hea
If memory serves me right, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Don't the Japanese who avoid the use of 4 because it sounds like death?
> I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that.
> Also, I remember hearing that about the Japanese television show "Iron
> Chef". Although there are 4 Iron Chefs, the TV
>You have to ask 'going up?', get a hummed response, then 'going
>down?', get a second hummed response, and evaluate the loudness of the
>two responses before deciding to enter the lift or not.
Why do I get the feeling this thread will eventually lead to a draft of
the 'Vertical Transport Device
Also heard at the IETF: In the plenary session the chair
denied the existence of Ireland.
t: RE: Heard at the IETF
At 07:58 PM 8/2/00 +, Dawson, Peter D wrote:
>->And of course, security folks want the buildings to be
>->O(2^1024) floors
>->high, so that we can see some *useful* primes...
>->
>-> --Steve Bellovin
>
>of course, using
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Subject: Re: Heard at the IETF
Don't the Japanese who avoid the use of 4 because it sounds like death?
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that.
Also, I remember hearing that about the Japanese television show "Iron
Chef". Although there
At 07:58 PM 8/2/00 +, Dawson, Peter D wrote:
>->And of course, security folks want the buildings to be
>->O(2^1024) floors
>->high, so that we can see some *useful* primes...
>->
>-> --Steve Bellovin
>
>of course, using the floor factors , as indicated...
>this will eliminate all
[ From: John Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
[ Date: 17:10 (-0400), Aug 2, 2000 ]
> Actually in the Far East there are 2, the Chinese
> skip 4 and the Koreans or Japanese skip something
> else. I have been in hotels in Korea where there 3
> floor numbers missing which of course
Warfield"
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cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:Re: Heard at the IETF
At 3:40 PM +0800 8/3/00, Hans E. Kristiansen wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 03:58:47PM -0400, Scot
Q: How can you tell you're on a serious geek list?
A: 17 (now 18) messages discussing prime numbers in elevators.
;-)
RGF
Robert G. Ferrell, CISSP
Who goeth without humor goeth unarmed.
At 3:40 PM +0800 8/3/00, Hans E. Kristiansen wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 03:58:47PM -0400, Scott Lawrence wrote:
> > > > - elevators (in the US) go 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 14 15...
> > > > they skip 13! Does this make 14 a prime number ? ;-)
> >
> > > No - it makes 26 a prime numb
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 03:58:47PM -0400, Scott Lawrence wrote:
> > > - elevators (in the US) go 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 14 15...
> > > they skip 13! Does this make 14 a prime number ? ;-)
>
> > No - it makes 26 a prime number.
>
> That's OK... But in China, they skip "4". (They really
At 02:59 PM 8/2/00 -0700, tim christensen wrote:
>I do not wish to continue being on the general IETF list
>but would like to be involved in Mobile IP and other
>Mobile security workgroups.
at www.ietf.org, under "working groups", find the Mobile IP charter, etc,
and join their mailing lists.
>
hanks,
Tim
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From: Lloyd Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 2:17 PM
To: Fred Baker
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Heard at the IETF
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Fred Baker wrote:
> At 08:00 PM 8/2/00 +0100, Lloyd Wood wrote:
> >In the
At 08:00 PM 8/2/00 +0100, Lloyd Wood wrote:
>In the US the ground floor is the first floor. So '1' is
>very likely to be lit.
There is no "1". That's an "L", for "Lobby".
At 4:39 PM -0400 8/2/00, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 03:58:47PM -0400, Scott Lawrence wrote:
> > > - elevators (in the US) go 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 14 15...
> > > they skip 13! Does this make 14 a prime number ? ;-)
>
> > No - it makes 26 a prime number.
>
>
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 03:58:47PM -0400, Scott Lawrence wrote:
> > - elevators (in the US) go 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 14 15...
> > they skip 13! Does this make 14 a prime number ? ;-)
> No - it makes 26 a prime number.
That's OK... But in China, they skip "4". (They really do).
->-Original Message-
->From: Steven M. Bellovin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
->Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 3:52 PM
->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->Cc: Jon Crowcroft; Dawson, Peter D; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->Subject: Re: Heard at the IETF
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..
->
->And of course,
> - elevators (in the US) go 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 14 15...
> they skip 13! Does this make 14 a prime number ? ;-)
No - it makes 26 a prime number.
--
Scott Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Llo
yd Wood writes:
>On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Jon Crowcroft wrote:
>
>> o course, if we were to internationalise the elevator ights, we';d
>> have to syubtract 1 (as we count from zero, not 1) and then they'd all
>> be even numbersunless of course one of them was the
At 3:09 PM -0400 8/2/00, Randall D. Hayes wrote:
>Don't forget about thirteen, we'd have to add that back in.
>
I can see that this is a very busy IETF meeting. ;-)
Don't forget about thirteen, we'd have to add that back in.
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Jon Crowcroft wrote:
>
> o course, if we were to internationalise the elevator ights, we';d
> have to syubtract 1 (as we count from zero, not 1) and then they'd all
> be even numbersunless of course one of th
>
> o course, if we were to internationalise the elevator ights, we';d
> have to syubtract 1 (as we count from zero, not 1) and then they'd all
Beg pardon? I believe you all would have to add one.
PF
Message-
From: Jon Crowcroft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:40 PM
To: Dawson, Peter D
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Heard at the IETF
o course, if we were to internationalise the elevator ights, we';d
have to syubtract 1 (as we count from zero, not 1) and
> o course, if we were to internationalise the elevator ights, we';d
> have to syubtract 1 (as we count from zero, not 1) and then they'd all
> be even numbersunless of course one of them was the one even
> prime...
Also note that there is a big difference in between elevators and computer
sc
o course, if we were to internationalise the elevator ights, we';d
have to syubtract 1 (as we count from zero, not 1) and then they'd all
be even numbersunless of course one of them was the one even
prime...
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Dawson, Peter D" typed:
>>oh... did the other me
oh... did the other members on the elevator dispute
the prime number sequence ..I.E as the elevator descended or ascended ??
if so..
then they were part of the ietf convention
else
they were a bunch of normal geeks
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->From: Dennis Glatting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE
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