Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-25 Thread Olaf Kolkman
[More NOISE, skip reading if you want SIGNAL] On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:36 AM, Christian Huitema wrote: Wasn't the official definition of the meter also tied to Paris? The invention of the meter is indeed tied to Paris. The value of the meter itself is not. The meter was defined by

RE: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-24 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bob Hinden [bob.hin...@gmail.com] Wasn't the official definition of the meter also tied to Paris? ___ The original measurement was done on a

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-24 Thread Huub van Helvoort
Hi, In adition to the meter, also the platinum kilogram is in Paris. Although recently it was found that it has lost some weight (compared to its brothers and sisters in other locations)... Wasn't the official definition of the meter also tied to Paris?

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-23 Thread Bob Hinden
On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Jan 21, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Clint Chaplin wrote: Hey, Paris lobbied heavily to have the Prime Meridian be fixed in Paris. That would have really made them the center of the navigational world. Yes, and then they got the BIH,

RE: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-23 Thread Christian Huitema
Wasn't the official definition of the meter also tied to Paris? The invention of the meter is indeed tied to Paris. The value of the meter itself is not. The meter was defined by scientists commissioned by the French revolutionary assembly, but it is not exactly tied to Paris. The original

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
No, that was Prague '68 http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/68/plenaryw.html I think the issue there was that we were in one of the cheapest cities in Europe to buy food outside the hotel and the prices inside the hotel were much higher than for other hotels in European capitals for Communist era

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread João Damas
On 21 Jan 2011, at 14:05, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: No, that was Prague '68 you mean IETF 68 in Prague. Prague '68 refers to rather different events in this corner of the world. Joao ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Michal Krsek
Hi Phillip, as a person living in Prague I have to say that if you want to have western style services, you need to pay western (or higher) prices. Please be sure local community spend last time some time to crawl around conference hotel talking to the management about large group of english

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Mary Barnes
If it's the same conference center that we were at for IETF-63, there should be few complaints about food given that there is a very nice (real) food market in the shopping area in the Palais de Congres - i.e., if there aren't enough cookies for you at the meeting, then you can go buy a whole

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Ole Jacobsen
Does anyone see the irony of us even discussing concerns about, of all things, FOOD when it comes to Paris? I can't wait to back to London :-) Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail:

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 21, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Mary Barnes wrote: If it's the same conference center that we were at for IETF-63, there should be few complaints about food given that there is a very nice (real) food market in the shopping area in the Palais de Congres - i.e., if there aren't enough

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:21 AM, João Damas wrote: On 21 Jan 2011, at 14:05, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: No, that was Prague '68 you mean IETF 68 in Prague. Prague '68 refers to rather different events in this corner of the world. Yes. We thankfully have yet to have tanks sent in to

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Michal Krsek mic...@krsek.cz wrote: Hi Phillip, as a person living in Prague I have to say that if you want to have western style services, you need to pay western (or higher) prices. No, the opposite was true. If you wanted a good meal you had to leave the

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com wrote: Does anyone see the irony of us even discussing concerns about, of all things, FOOD when it comes to Paris? What else is there to discuss in Paris? -- Website: http://hallambaker.com/

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread todd glassey
On 1/21/2011 10:22 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com mailto:o...@cisco.com wrote: Does anyone see the irony of us even discussing concerns about, of all things, FOOD when it comes to Paris? What else is there to discuss in

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Clint Chaplin
Hey, Paris lobbied heavily to have the Prime Meridian be fixed in Paris. That would have really made them the center of the navigational world. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM, todd glassey tglas...@earthlink.netwrote: On 1/21/2011 10:22 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 21, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Clint Chaplin wrote: Hey, Paris lobbied heavily to have the Prime Meridian be fixed in Paris. That would have really made them the center of the navigational world. Yes, and then they got the BIH, which got them the power to change GMT to UTC. (GMT no longer

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
GMT still exists as a legal construct and could well prove useful since it is ultimately under control of HMG, quite possibly it can be modified by as little as an order in council. So if HMG would eliminate the inanity of leap seconds in GMT we could probably move most computer systems back to

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Donald Eastlake
I had the impression that it was the International Earth Rotation Service (www.iers.org), also headquartered in Paris, that was in charge of leap seconds, as stated here http://www.iers.org/nn_11252/IERS/EN/DataProducts/EarthOrientationData/bulC__MD.html Thanks, Donald

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 21, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote: I had the impression that it was the International Earth Rotation Service (www.iers.org), also headquartered in Paris, that was in charge of leap seconds, as stated here

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 21, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: GMT still exists as a legal construct and could well prove useful since it is ultimately under control of HMG, quite possibly it can be modified by as little as an order in council. So if HMG would eliminate the inanity of leap

Re: IETF 83 Venue

2011-01-20 Thread James M. Polk
At 03:31 PM 1/19/2011, IETF Administrative Director wrote: The IAOC is pleased to announce Paris as the site for IETF 83 from 25 - 30 March 2012. The IETF last met in the city in 2005 at IETF 63. Paris was the number one choice for a European venue in a venue preference survey conducted after