Thus spake lconroy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seriously, folks, I try to avoid driving on the wrong side of the road,
so is there a problem in walking about in this area of Dallas at this
time of year?
Most major roads in Dallas are divided and/or have heavy traffic, so I
wouldn't be worried about
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From: Bob Braden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ietf@ietf.org
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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: IETF65 hotel location
I don't understand why this discussion keeps going on and on, much
less why it started in the first place.
Folks
Dave Crocker wrote:
when an issue is raised repeatedly, by many different people, it almost
always has some degree of inherent legitimacy. that makes it worth
attending to.
some tactical problems have strategic impact. in this case, decisions
which well might serve to make the ietf less
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Dave Crocker
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:26 PM
To: Marshall Eubanks
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: IETF65 hotel location
However, to be constructive, I would like to suggest adding two yes or
no questions to the next meeting questionnaire :
A.) Do
question (i.e. B below):
A) Did you attend IETF-65?
B) If not, why not?
Regards,
Ed
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:26 PM
To: Marshall Eubanks
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: IETF65 hotel
, 2006 1:12 PM
-- To: 'Spencer Dawkins'; ietf@ietf.org
-- Subject: RE: IETF65 hotel location
--
-- Hi,
--
-- This conversation of the IETF65 location started with an issue of
-- security.
--
-- I'd like to get this discussion back on track.
-- What are the security requirements for a distributed
I don't understand why this discussion keeps going on and on, much
less why it started in the first place.
Folks, surely we have more important issues of Internet technology to
talk about, rather than jaw-boning about a task that we have delegated
to a competant organization. That organization
So, in the context of a location that may be considered isolated, I
think it might be useful to consider this an experiment, and judge
the reaction of the community after the meeting towards this
variable.
A reasonable question, but it probably needs to be picked out a little
more than that. For
Bob Braden wrote:
I don't understand why this discussion keeps going on and on, much
less why it started in the first place.
perhaps the difficulty is that you do not suffer from the problems being
discussed. that is fine for you, but it does not make the problems small or
secondary.
when
At 12:25 PM 1/30/2006, John Levine wrote:
So, in the context of a location that may be considered isolated, I
think it might be useful to consider this an experiment, and judge
the reaction of the community after the meeting towards this
variable.
A reasonable question, but it probably needs to
Regards,
Jordi
De: Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organización: Brandenburg InternetWorking
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Para: Bob Braden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Asunto: Re: IETF65 hotel location
Bob Braden wrote:
I
Marshall,
How the heck did you manage to find *anywhere* in the South of
England
where the nearest pub was over 10 miles away? As a Southerner, I'm
amazed.
Seriously, folks, I try to avoid driving on the wrong side of the
road, so is
there a problem in walking about in this area of
Just be sure to stop at the gun rental place at the airport on the way in,
this is Texas :-)
Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972 GSM: +1 415-370-4628
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...
so is
there a problem in walking about in this area of Dallas at this time of
year?
Possibly being arrested for not burning enough petroleum?
Seriously, taxis may be necessary once in a while.
Also, will the Agenda give longer breaks for Lunch?
- it would seem that it will take
However, to be constructive, I would like to suggest adding two yes or
no questions to the next meeting questionnaire :
A.) Do you feel that the venue chosen for the meeting was too remote, in
terms of accessibility of restaurants, bars, your or other hotels, etc. ?
B.) (If A is answered
This can be argued both ways. (The most productive meeting I think
that I ever went to
was a physics standardization meeting in a castle in the South of
England with nothing of note within 20 miles, and not even a pub
within 10 miles. All we could do is work, meet and bond. And raid the
, is that considered a man-in-the-middle attack?
dbh
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Behalf Of Spencer Dawkins
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:26 PM
To: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: IETF65 hotel location
Hi, Mike,
If we could morph
On Saturday, January 28, 2006 01:11:38 PM -0500 David B Harrington
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This conversation of the IETF65 location started with an issue of
security.
I'd like to get this discussion back on track.
What are the security requirements for a distributed burrito
processing
Pekka,
Maybe folks more experienced in the area can shed some light on this. Is
it expected that folks rent a car in order not to starve, or..? Drive
500 taxis back and forth?
There is food on site of course, but taxis (shared!) seem to be needed
for wider choice of restaurants.
This
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
This statement, The Wyndham is less than a ten minute walk from the Hilton
Anatole. is a bit odd -- at least Maporama prints out the distance as 22.7
kilometers, 16 mins with a car. Did I do something wrong?
You must have. Mapquest says 0.3
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Pekka Savola wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
This statement, The Wyndham is less than a ten minute walk from the
Hilton Anatole. is a bit odd -- at least Maporama prints out the distance
as 22.7 kilometers, 16 mins with a car. Did I do something
Looking at the restaurant map, it seems that the IETF65 hotel/venue is
basically in the middle of nowhere. Restaurants are typically 2+
miles away, and my guess is that public transportation or walking aren't
options.
Periodically, the IETF venue is quite isolated.
This makes it
This statement, The Wyndham is less than a ten minute walk from the
Hilton Anatole. is a bit odd -- at least Maporama prints out the
distance as 22.7 kilometers, 16 mins with a car. Did I do something
wrong?
Whassa matter, 23 km is too far to walk? Wimp.
Visiting Dallas without a car is
Savola
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: IETF65 hotel location
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Pekka Savola wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
This statement, The Wyndham is less than a ten minute
walk from the
Hilton Anatole. is a bit odd -- at least Maporama prints out
There is a wide selection of cheaper hotels available around the
meeting hotel that are all walking distance.
The mapping page that the anatole provides seemed to show the closest
alternative as about .8 miles, and seemed to require walking down a problematic
street. Google seems to show
Dave,
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 07:57:08AM -0800, Dave Crocker wrote:
This makes it inconvenient not only for getting to restaurants but
also for attendees wanting to stay at cheaper hotels.
There is a wide selection of cheaper hotels available around the
meeting hotel that are all walking
Cue ten further emails describing various Google Earth mashups that
correlate restaurants with capacity, wait time and geek acceptability
If we could morph it into a signup system that distributed people
according to restauant capacity and avoided the problem that someone
says I hear there's a
John Levine wrote:
Cue ten further emails describing various Google Earth mashups that
correlate restaurants with capacity, wait time and geek acceptability
If we could morph it into a signup system that distributed people
according to restauant capacity and avoided the problem that someone
Hi, Mike,
If we could morph it into a signup system that distributed people
according to restauant capacity and avoided the problem that someone
says I hear there's a burrito place on X street and a herd of 300
IETFers shows up there, since they don't know any other places to go,
then you'd
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Subject: Re: IETF65 hotel location
Dave,
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 07:57:08AM -0800, Dave Crocker wrote:
This makes it inconvenient not only for getting to restaurants but
also for attendees wanting to stay at cheaper hotels.
There is a wide selection
On Friday, January 27, 2006 02:26:26 PM -0600 Spencer Dawkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Mike,
If we could morph it into a signup system that distributed people
according to restauant capacity and avoided the problem that someone
says I hear there's a burrito place on X street and a
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