Re: IPv4 addresses eaten by... what? (was: IPv6 standard)

2009-10-02 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
The use of market mechanisms to allocate radio spectrum is now pretty much the norm around the world. The only countries that might object to such mechanisms on ideological grounds are either powerless to object (Cuba, North Korea) or considerably more concerned about ensuring access to IP addresse

RE: IPv4 addresses eaten by... what? (was: IPv6 standard)

2009-09-29 Thread Shane Kerr
Tony, [top-posting since that's what you did] AIUI, the intention is not for the RIRs to be "controlling the market", but rather to provide the same value they do now: a location where I can see who is responsible for a given address. I think the RIRs all have a transfer policy now. So when a pr

RE: IPv4 addresses eaten by... what? (was: IPv6 standard)

2009-09-28 Thread Tony Hain
horse has left the barn? Tony > -Original Message- > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Danny McPherson > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:48 AM > To: IETF Discussion > Subject: Re: IPv4 addresses eaten by... what? (was: IPv6

Re: IPv4 addresses eaten by... what? (was: IPv6 standard)

2009-09-28 Thread Danny McPherson
On Sep 28, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Tony Hain wrote: Look at http://www.nro.net/ for the current process. Look at http://www.ebay.com/ for the process once the IANA & RIR pools are allocated. There are misguided fantasy discussions about controlling the market in the RIR context, but given that the

RE: IPv4 addresses eaten by... what? (was: IPv6 standard)

2009-09-28 Thread Tony Hain
Arnt, Look at http://www.nro.net/ for the current process. Look at http://www.ebay.com/ for the process once the IANA & RIR pools are allocated. There are misguided fantasy discussions about controlling the market in the RIR context, but given that their charters explicitly say that they make no s