RE: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-04 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
Dear Peter, I am sorry to comment this again. But this is a Last Call over a private proposition. There is no other forum to comment this key document for the future of the Internet. There is also no other forum to correct what you say on me. I whish to recall that the main issues are the

RE: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-04 Thread Peter Constable
From: JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. I never objected the scripting-ID. I objected that it was not given the same importance as language and country codes. I plead (and act) for 25 years for the support of authoritative distinctions among users contexts. But I am not paid

Re: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 13:56 03/01/2005, John C Klensin wrote: I hope these are mutually exclusive. Yes, if this means that the three of them should be aggregated into the final strategy. (i) Since we have no Next-Best Current Practices category, publish this as an Informational Document,

Re: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, 03 January, 2005 16:43 +0100 JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 13:56 03/01/2005, John C Klensin wrote: I hope these are mutually exclusive. Yes, if this means that the three of them should be aggregated into the final strategy. No, I really meant pick one,

RE: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread Peter Constable
From: John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (iii) One way to read this document, and 3066 itself for that matter, is that they constitute a critique of IS 639 in terms of its adequacy for Internet use. Not exactly. It reflects that ISO 639 alone does not support all of the

RE: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, 03 January, 2005 09:58 -0800 Peter Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (iii) One way to read this document, and 3066 itself for that matter, is that they constitute a critique of IS 639 in terms of its adequacy for Internet

RE: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread Peter Constable
From: Peter Constable I'd also like to observe that various members of TC 37 and the ISO 639- RA/JAC have observed or participated in the development of this draft. For my part, it is not the draft I would have developed if I had undertaken it, but I see no problems with it from a TC 37 or

RE: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread Peter Constable
From: John C Klensin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ignoring whether that very nearly happened in RFC 3066, because some of us would have taken exception to inserting a script mechanism then, let's assume that 3066 can be characterized as a language-locale standard (with some funny exceptions

Re: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
On 18:04 03/01/2005, John C Klensin said: No, I really meant pick one, since doing any combination I of the three that I have been able to think about would just produce more confusion. John, please review your propositions. They are not fully satisfactory because each address (correctly) only

RE: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
On 20:37 03/01/2005, Peter Constable said: I note with interest that ccTLDs make use of ISO 3166 in spite of its potential for instability. In the case of ccTLDs, however, there is a considerable infrastructure for dealing with this: the DN system and strict procedures for deploying changes in

RE: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, 03 January, 2005 12:29 -0800 Peter Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John C Klensin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ignoring whether that very nearly happened in RFC 3066, because some of us would have taken exception to inserting a script mechanism then, let's assume that

RE: Last Call on Language Tags (RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08)

2005-01-03 Thread Peter Constable
John: How nice. In 2004, I discovered that I had no operational experience and then that I knew nothing about standardization processes outside the IETF. It is now only three days into 2005 and already I've learned that I haven't been focused on IT globalization. I anxiously await the