Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread Frank Ellermann
IETF Administrative Director wrote: > Is there strong rationale for maintaining production of the CDs? No opinion - but on a related issue: Some slide shows are very interesting, and the HTML output of Powerpoint is *_MUCH_* better than huge PDFs. Frank _

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread shogunx
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, IETF Administrative Director wrote: > The IAOC is preparing the 2007 budget and would like feedback on whether > or not to continue producing the IETF meeting CDs of the Proceedings. > > It has been suggested as a way of employing limited Secretariat labor > more productively t

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Does anyone know of any libraries that attempt to acquire / archive a complete set of IETF proceedings ? They might not read this list and should be contacted directly in my opinion. Regards Marshall On Oct 6, 2006, at 1:01 PM, shogunx wrote: On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, IETF Administrative Dire

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread Andy Bierman
IETF Administrative Director wrote: The IAOC is preparing the 2007 budget and would like feedback on whether or not to continue producing the IETF meeting CDs of the Proceedings. It has been suggested as a way of employing limited Secretariat labor more productively that the IAOC discontinue pro

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread Michael C. StJohns
At 01:57 PM 10/6/2006, Andy Bierman wrote: If I really wanted to have a CD of the proceedings, then I would want to retrieve a .iso file from the archive. Actually, I *like* this option a lot. I don't see any reason to continue to produce the CDs, but I do see a need for a permanent archival

RE: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread Gray, Eric
rs so that people could access the older IETF documents and proceedings... -- Eric --> -Original Message- --> From: Michael C. StJohns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:14 PM --> To: Andy Bierman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> Cc: ietf@ietf.org -->

RE: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread Michael C. StJohns
; From: Michael C. StJohns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:14 PM --> To: Andy Bierman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> Cc: ietf@ietf.org --> Subject: Re: Proceeding CDs --> --> At 01:57 PM 10/6/2006, Andy Bierman wrote: --> >If I really wanted to have a CD

RE: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 06 October, 2006 14:26 -0400 "Gray, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It makes sense now, but will it make sense in 10 years? > > With today's DVD technology, is it completely unlikely > that ISO CD formats may not be supported by then? Is it > not possible that CDs will go the

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread Ted Faber
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 02:26:23PM -0400, Gray, Eric wrote: > It makes sense now, but will it make sense in 10 years? > > With today's DVD technology, is it completely unlikely > that ISO CD formats may not be supported by then? Is it > not possible that CDs will go the way of 8-track tapes, > b

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread bmanning
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 06:35:15PM -0400, IETF Administrative Director wrote: > The IAOC is preparing the 2007 budget and would like feedback on whether > or not to continue producing the IETF meeting CDs of the Proceedings. > > It has been suggested as a way of employing limited Secretariat labor

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread Joe Abley
On 6-Oct-2006, at 14:26, Gray, Eric wrote: It makes sense now, but will it make sense in 10 years? If there is concern about a permanent archive, then surely this is entirely orthogonal to the question of whether to burn things to scratch-prone, flimsy plastic discs. To give information

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-06 Thread David W. Hankins
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 10:56:51PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Remove that, and the question might be asked? "What do we get for > our money?" more often. Are you suggesting that proceeding CD's are actually a valid answer to this question, or that people should merely be convin

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-07 Thread Lars Eggert
On Oct 7, 2006, at 0:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been told that it is often useful to have a token of the money that was spent. and for some, the hardcopy proceedings filled the bill nicely. The CD, while not quite the same impact for mgmt, does provide a t

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-07 Thread Fred Baker
To be honest, if the corporate sponsor doesn't know the answer to that level of question, they fundamentally don't get it. I have left companies over that level of disconnectedness before, and they in each case (note the plural) have departed from the industry not far behind. On Oct 7, 20

Re: Proceeding CDs

2006-10-12 Thread Tom.Petch
CDs of Proceedings always seemed like an excellent idea but: - sometimes they never arrived - I cannot ever recall them arriving in good time, that is closer to the time of the meeting they relate to than to that of the next meeting. Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "IETF Administra

Re: Proceeding CDs

2007-02-19 Thread Stewart Bryant
Is there strong rationale for maintaining production of the CDs? No. IMO, free online retrieval of IETF proceedings is sufficient. Spend the time and money on something more important. I agree. - Stewart ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https