RE: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread John C Klensin
Bernard, I'm going to try to respond to both your note and Mark's, using yours as a base because it better reflects my perspective. Before I go on, I think the three of us are in agreement about the situation. The question is what can (or should) be done about it. --On Friday, 04 July, 2008 13:

Re: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread Mark Andrews
> So the "problem" isn't whether some string not listed in 2606 > can be allocated, it is how it is used after it is allocated. > And _that_ situation has a lot more to do about "buyer beware" > and understanding of conflicting expectations about use than it > does about ownership. > > john

RE: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread Bernard Aboba
> Not really. ICANN isn't "selling" single-label domains. They > are selling (and I believe "selling" is probably now the correct > term) plain, ordinary, TLD delegations. If I get one of those > and populate the TLD zone only with delegation records, there > are no problems with what ICANN has

RE: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 04 July, 2008 10:49 -0700 Bernard Aboba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Single label names are local in scope. Attempting to use >> them in a global context does not work. As the names in >> "." get more interesting the probability of collisions with >> existing names goes up. N

RE: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread Bernard Aboba
>Single label names are local in scope. Attempting to use >them in a global context does not work. As the names in > "." get more interesting the probability of collisions with >existing names goes up. Not many people choose two letter > labels for the least significant parts of their host name