RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Daniele Ceccarelli
Dublin panned? I thought it was one of the best venues and locations of the last meetings. What about Italy or Spain? I've never heard about an IETF in Italy. I'm ok with meetings outside Italy since i like traveling very much, but i was wondering why it has never been taken into account in the

RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
Oslo? -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Daniele Ceccarelli Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 3:24 PM To: Andrew Sullivan; ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity) Dublin panned? I thought it

RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
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RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Dearlove, Christopher (UK) Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:56 PM To: Daniele Ceccarelli; Andrew Sullivan; ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity) Dublin's problem was that the venue was isolated from the city. This has

RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Ole Jacobsen
Daniele, I can almost guarantee that if you help us find a suitable venue and host we'll be coming to Italy. So far we haven't found either, but that can be said about a lot of places... Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-897

RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
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Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:55:59PM +, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: > is noise) and the ability to plan ahead to only attend part of the > week. That topic imports a completely new one to this discussion: advance scheduling of the meetings. If there is any principle for repeating a venue

RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
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Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Mary Barnes
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RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
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Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Mary Barnes
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RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
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RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
I made always good experiences with meeting venues in the downtown of hub cities with good flight connections. As a European for me the east coast of North America is better than the west coast. So far my experience was very good with following meeting locations and would agree for a repetition

RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Richard Shockey
87 -Original Message- From: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) [mailto:nurit.sprec...@nsn.com] Sent: 06 August 2012 15:07 To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); Daniele Ceccarelli; Andrew Sullivan; ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granular

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Michael Richardson
> I've never been to an IETF meeting where the plane fare has exceeded the > hotel cost for a week. note: I pay my own way, and make all my own arrangements. The only meetings where my hotel costs exceeded my transporation costs were the Montreal IETFs (I live in Ottawa). When I've flown I hav

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Margaret Wasserman
+1 On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Richard Shockey wrote: > [RS> ] +1 and no employer ever argued that going to Minneapolis was a > boondoggle. The Hilton in Minneapolis of all the IETF meetings I’ve > attended has the most optimal layout of meeting rooms etc. > > If we were to choose one place

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Aug 6, 2012, at 16:41, Mary Barnes wrote: > If we were to choose one place in the U.S. to meet, Minneapolis is the best > choice IMHO. +1 a lot. (If we indeed have to choose the US.) Great facility to get work done, good food, reasonable flights. And add Prague as the staple for Europe.

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Arturo Servin
t; Sent: 06 August 2012 15:07 > To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); Daniele Ceccarelli; Andrew Sullivan; > ietf@ietf.org > Subject: RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity) > > --! WARNING ! -- > This message originates from out

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-06 Thread Arturo Servin
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Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-07 Thread Andrew G. Malis
+1 to both of Carsten's suggestions. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Aug 6, 2012, at 16:41, Mary Barnes wrote: > >> If we were to choose one place in the U.S. to meet, Minneapolis is the best >> choice IMHO. > > +1 a lot. > (If we indeed have to choose the US.) > Gre

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-08 Thread Geoff Mulligan
Centre, > Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK > Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 > > > -Original Message- > From: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) [mailto:nurit.sprec...@nsn.com] > Sent: 06 August 2012 15:07 > To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); Daniele Ceccarelli

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-08 Thread Geoff Mulligan
The Orlando airport is a nightmare almost any time and will be even worse during this upcoming IETF. When I had my FlyClear card it was the only airport where I ever felt that it was necessary. Avoiding Orlando during the many weeks a spring break would have been good. Geoff On Aug 6, 2012

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-08 Thread Geoff Mulligan
I liked the hotel and prague was wonderful, but it didn't seem easy to get to cheaply from the US. Geoff On Aug 6, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Aug 6, 2012, at 16:41, Mary Barnes wrote: > >> If we were to choose one place in the U.S. to meet, Minneapolis is the best >> ch

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-08 Thread Yoav Nir
Mileage varies. For me it was the shortest and cheapest flight of any IETF meeting I have attended. Yoav On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Geoff Mulligan wrote: > I liked the hotel and prague was wonderful, but it didn't seem easy to get to > cheaply from the US. > > Geoff > > > > On Aug 6, 20

RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-08 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
+1 -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Yoav Nir Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:07 PM To: Geoff Mulligan Cc: Carsten Bormann; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity) Mileage varies

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-08 Thread Glen Zorn
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RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-08 Thread Glen Zorn
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext > Yoav Nir > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:07 PM > To: Geoff Mulligan > Cc: Carsten Bormann; ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity) > > Mileage varies. > &

Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granularity)

2012-08-09 Thread t . p .
x 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK > Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 > > > -Original Message- > From: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) [mailto:nurit.sprec...@nsn.com] > Sent: 06 August 2012 15:0