RE: Visas and Costs

2009-09-22 Thread Glen Zorn
John C Klensin [mailto://john-i...@jck.com] writes: ... Two additional observations may be useful. In the US, someone must appear in person at the embassy or consulate -- there is no mail-in service, at least for US citizens. In practice, that means that if one is in a city with a

Re: Visas and Costs

2009-09-22 Thread Stefan Winter
Hi, Okay, so one advantage of having a meeting in the PRC is that the majority of participants (including US and Canadian ones) who can normally travel almost anywhere without VISAs will have to experience some of the pain of getting a VISA. You may have meant this in a sarcastic way, but it

Re: Visas and Costs

2009-09-22 Thread John C Klensin
Hi. After a brief offlist conversation with Zhujui, I think I may have added to the confusion, rather than clarifying.So let me see if I can summarize my remarks and maybe his. * There are, or have been, some countries that view visa application requirements purely as revenue

Re: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, September 21, 2009 10:10 -0700 Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com wrote: Just a couple of comments regarding cost and visas, speaking from personal experience. ... Visa: If you are a US citizen, the visa fee is $130 here in the US. For non-US citizens, the fee is only $30 :-)

Re: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread Ray Pelletier
On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Ross Callon wrote: For the main hotel, do we know whether the cost will be significantly different from what we normally spend on IETF hotels? Less than the main hotel in San Francisco and Stockholm Ray I am assuming that VISA information will be provided on

Re: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread Michael Richardson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, so one advantage of having a meeting in the PRC is that the majority of participants (including US and Canadian ones) who can normally travel almost anywhere without VISAs will have to experience some of the pain of getting a VISA. But, if we

RE: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread HUANG, ZHIHUI (JERRY), ATTLABS
, September 21, 2009 12:29 PM To: Ole Jacobsen Cc: IETF-Discussion list Subject: Re: Visas and Costs --On Monday, September 21, 2009 10:10 -0700 Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com wrote: Just a couple of comments regarding cost and visas, speaking from personal experience. ... Visa: If you are a US

RE: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread Ole Jacobsen
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Ross Callon wrote: For the main hotel, do we know whether the cost will be significantly different from what we normally spend on IETF hotels? The rates are expected to be in line with normal IETF rates (if there is such a thing). Hotel costs is certainly one of the

Re: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread Andrew G. Malis
:29 PM To: Ole Jacobsen Cc: IETF-Discussion list Subject: Re: Visas and Costs --On Monday, September 21, 2009 10:10 -0700 Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com wrote: Just a couple of comments regarding cost and visas, speaking from  personal experience. ... Visa: If you are a US citizen, the visa

RE: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread HUANG, ZHIHUI (JERRY), ATTLABS
(JERRY), ATTLABS Cc: John C Klensin; Ole Jacobsen; IETF-Discussion list Subject: Re: Visas and Costs There are multiple Chinese consulates in the US, and each one seems to have its own rules regarding visas. So it really pays to work with an experienced visa service. Cheers, Andy On Mon, Sep 21

Re: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I am assuming that VISA information will be provided on the IETF web site, and that we will need a letter of invitation which the IETF will provide. You really have to check with a local expert. For my last visit, I needed not a letter of invitation from my host, but an official invitation

RE: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, September 21, 2009 18:42 -0400 HUANG, ZHIHUI (JERRY), ATTLABS jhua...@att.com wrote: OK. That may be the case, so I checked the Chinese Consulate in Houston and San Francisco, as well as the Chinese Embassy (in addition to Chicago). All four list multi-entry visa for 6 or 12

RE: Visas and Costs

2009-09-21 Thread HUANG, ZHIHUI (JERRY), ATTLABS
, 2009 7:24 PM To: HUANG, ZHIHUI (JERRY), ATTLABS Cc: IETF-Discussion list Subject: RE: Visas and Costs --On Monday, September 21, 2009 18:42 -0400 HUANG, ZHIHUI (JERRY), ATTLABS jhua...@att.com wrote: OK. That may be the case, so I checked the Chinese Consulate in Houston and San Francisco