Re: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-06 Thread John Cowan
JFC (Jefsey) Morfin scripsit: I also note the importance of the entities given by the Internet standard process in BCPs. I would be interested in knowing which entities are participating as such (or nearly as such - I see the W3C, which other entity?) to this proposition. Construe,

Re: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-05 Thread John Cowan
JFC (Jefsey) Morfin scripsit: your draft is not controverted for bettering RFC 3066 but for not bettering it enough, in an interapplication concerted way, for the standard you want your draft to become. The intent is that the draft become a BCP replacing RFC 3066 (also a BCP), not an

Re: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-05 Thread Bruce Lilly
Date: 2005-01-02 19:47 From: Addison Phillips [wM] [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be entirely possible for en-Latn-US-boont to be registered under the terms of RFC 3066. But it hasn't been. No RFC 3066 parser will therefore find that complete tag in its list of IANA registered tags,

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-04 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, 03 January, 2005 17:49 -0800 Christian Huitema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you please pursue this rather technical discussion on a specialized list, rather than the main IETF list? Christian, It seems to me that we are in a bit of a procedural bind on this. The spec has

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-04 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
Internationalization is an architecture. It is not a feature. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John C Klensin Sent: 200513 18:41 To: Christian Huitema Cc: ietf@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-04 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 00:55 05/01/2005, Addison Phillips [wM] wrote: The characterization of this draft as controversial because two or three people object to *any* change of RFC 3066, regardless of any evidence presented of evolving needs and careful consideration thereof, is incorrect. Dear Addison, your draft

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-03 Thread Christian Huitema
Could you please pursue this rather technical discussion on a specialized list, rather than the main IETF list? -- Christian Huitema ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-03 Thread Sam Hartman
Christian == Christian Huitema [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Could you please pursue this rather technical Christian discussion on a specialized list, rather than the main Christian IETF list? There is sort of this problem that most of this traffic is last call comments on a

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-03 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, 03 January, 2005 17:49 -0800 Christian Huitema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you please pursue this rather technical discussion on a specialized list, rather than the main IETF list? Christian, It seems to me that we are in a bit of a procedural bind on this. The spec has

Re: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-02 Thread Bruce Lilly
Date: 2005-01-01 21:58 From: Peter Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ietf@ietf.org 2. RFC 3066 did not require every possible combination of language subtag + country subtag to be registered. None *could* be registered. Even if by some oversight or lapse of

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-02 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
Hi Bruce, Even if by some oversight or lapse of judgment the tag en-US were to be registered, its interpretation by a parser would be as an ISO 639 language code followed by an ISO 3166 country code. SUch a registration would therefore be pointless. In practice, therfore, it simply

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-02 Thread Peter Constable
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ietf-languages- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Lilly There is nothing in RFC 3066 that says a registered tag must have 3 to 8 characters in the second subtag. It simply requires that any tag in which the second subtag is 3 to 8 letters must be

Re: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-01 Thread Bruce Lilly
Date: 2004-12-30 12:11 From: Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. All tags valid under the generative RFC 3066bis syntax could have been registered, and therefore would have been valid, under RFC 3066 as well. Not so. RFC 3066 section 2.2 specifically requires for IANA

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-01 Thread Peter Constable
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ietf-languages- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Lilly 2.  RFC 3066 did not require every possible combination of language subtag + country subtag to be registered. None *could* be registered. That is not correct; there is nothing in RFC 3066