RE: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-10 Thread Glen Zorn
... [gwz] (I wonder how much the costs would go down if the meeting ended at 4PM Thursday instead of noon on Friday, and there was only one plenary night on Wednesday.) [gwz] [gwz] Probably not at all. I only have experience with sponsoring one IETF, but in that case ( I believe generally) the

RE: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Eric Gray (LO/EUS)
Gray Principal Engineer Ericsson -Original Message- From: YAO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:03 AM To: IETF Secretariat; ietf@ietf.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Andy Bierman
Adrian Farrel wrote: We shall see, but I don't know that putting up the price necessarily fixes the registration income issue. You only have to deter a relatively small proportion of attendees to wipe out the increase in charge. I assume that the converse is also being applied: viz. cutting

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 07:03:03PM +0800, YAO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 71 lines which said: the price of ticket to join the IETF is not to encourage the individual with little dollars and small company to join the IETF. I agree. Raising the ticket price is to raise the

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Lars Eggert
See the recent email on ietf-announce: Begin forwarded message: From: ext Kurt Erik Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 4, 2007 17:13:49 GMT+03:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: IAOC Jabberr [EMAIL PROTECTED], ietf@ietf.org, IESG \(\(E-mail\) \) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vancouver meeting

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread James Carlson
YAO writes: joining the IETF is luxury for individual. [...] it seems that IETF is becoming a wealthy club. I agree it's a shame, but I disagree with your conclusions. The IETF isn't a membership organization. You don't pay any dues to belong to it, and there's no requirement to go to any

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Adrian Farrel
We shall see, but I don't know that putting up the price necessarily fixes the registration income issue. You only have to deter a relatively small proportion of attendees to wipe out the increase in charge. I assume that the converse is also being applied: viz. cutting meeting costs. It's

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Simon Josefsson
James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YAO writes: joining the IETF is luxury for individual. [...] it seems that IETF is becoming a wealthy club. I agree it's a shame, but I disagree with your conclusions. The IETF isn't a membership organization. You don't pay any dues to belong to

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Sep 7, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Glen Zorn wrote: ... [gwz] (I wonder how much the costs would go down if the meeting ended at 4PM Thursday instead of noon on Friday, and there was only one plenary night on Wednesday.) [gwz] [gwz] Probably not at all. I only have experience with sponsoring one

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Bob Braden
* * The official business of the IETF is still conducted -- for free and * without discrimination -- on open mailing lists. I hope it always * remains that way. * Unfortuantley, a lot of experience in the Internet community has shown us that it is very difficult to reach actual

RE: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Darryl \(Dassa\) Lynch
Adrian Farrel wrote: We shall see, but I don't know that putting up the price necessarily fixes the registration income issue. You only have to deter a relatively small proportion of attendees to wipe out the increase in charge. I assume that the converse is also being applied: viz.