Re: why to contact the IETF

2009-02-10 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Hi Steve, On 2009-02-11 08:19, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:59:52 -0800 > "Lawrence Rosen" wrote: >> Why don't we organize to answer the patent claim infringement issues >> like professionals do? Ask technical experts. Consult a patent >> attorney. Render expert opinio

RE: why to contact the IETF

2009-02-10 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Noel Chiappa wrote: > I'm not sure I'd really believe any determination short of a court's > anyway - > attorneys can advise, but until the proverbial butcher-baker- > candlestickmaker > get their say after a trial, it's got an element of coin-toss to it, no? I respond only to this specific point.

Re: why to contact the IETF

2009-02-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 10, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: From: "Lawrence Rosen" The result of the FSF campaign has been to raise a legal concern obviously important to many of us: Will users of the proposed IETF TLS specification require patent licenses from RedPhone to use such implementations

RE: why to contact the IETF

2009-02-10 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: "Lawrence Rosen" > The result of the FSF campaign has been to raise a legal concern > obviously important to many of us: Will users of the proposed IETF TLS > specification require patent licenses from RedPhone to use such > implementations in the US or elsewhere? Tha

Re: why to contact the IETF

2009-02-10 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:59:52 -0800 "Lawrence Rosen" wrote: > The result of the FSF campaign has been to raise a legal concern No, they didn't raise the concern. The concern had been raised previously by people who are obviously IETF participants, including Simon Josefsson. (I don't recall if y

RE: why to contact the IETF

2009-02-10 Thread Lawrence Rosen
The result of the FSF campaign has been to raise a legal concern obviously important to many of us: Will users of the proposed IETF TLS specification require patent licenses from RedPhone to use such implementations in the US or elsewhere? I don't yet know the answer to this question. Does anyone