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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:51:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Dean Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Contreras, Jorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ietf@ietf.org, Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Su
Passed the question to Jorge.
If "the IAD shall ensure that such contract grants to ISOC the perpetual,
irrevocable right, on behalf of IASA and IETF, to use, display, distribute,
reproduce, modify and create derivatives of such Data." doesn't cover
sublicensing (as in "letting others use to our
> "Ted" == Ted Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ted> At 6:23 PM -0500 1/26/05, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> I brought up the issue of sublicensing. Perhaps I missed
>> discussion in the flood of messages. Assuming I didn't, let me
>> try and prod people?
>>
>> Do people b
At 6:23 PM -0500 1/26/05, Sam Hartman wrote:
I brought up the issue of sublicensing. Perhaps I missed discussion
in the flood of messages. Assuming I didn't, let me try and prod people?
Do people believe the issue of sublicensing is not worth discussing or
are we all just unsure what to say about
I brought up the issue of sublicensing. Perhaps I missed discussion
in the flood of messages. Assuming I didn't, let me try and prod people?
Do people believe the issue of sublicensing is not worth discussing or
are we all just unsure what to say about it?
--Sam
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:09:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Dean Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Legal review results 1: Intellectual property
One problem:
One can have full cont
ta to someone else
to use.
--Dean
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:09:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Dean Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Legal review results 1: Intellect
lvestrand
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> Subject: RE: Legal review results 1: Intellectual property (fwd)
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> This doesn't seem to have made it to the list...
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> Date: mandag, janua
l, to the extent that there are any.
-Original Message-
From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:34 AM
To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Cc: ietf@ietf.org; Contreras, Jorge
Subject: Re: Legal review results 1: Intellectual property
Harald Tveit Alvestrand
ith software
developed by IASA personnel, to the extent that there are any.
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From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:34 AM
To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Cc: ietf@ietf.org; Contreras, Jorge
Subject: Re: Legal review results 1: Intelle
> Date: 2005-01-24 08:12
> From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ietf@ietf.org
> CC: Jorge Contreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> (explicit CC to Jorge, since I'm interpreting his words)
> On reading the text again, I think this text:
>
> > (B) ÂIf an IASA Contract provides for
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
(explicit CC to Jorge, since I'm interpreting his words)
--On fredag, januar 21, 2005 10:49:21 -0500 Bruce Lilly
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Verbosity aside, I don't believe that "sole control and custodianship"
applies to open source software. I am not a lawyer, but
(explicit CC to Jorge, since I'm interpreting his words)
--On fredag, januar 21, 2005 10:49:21 -0500 Bruce Lilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Verbosity aside, I don't believe that "sole control and custodianship"
applies to open source software. I am not a lawyer, but the "Old text"
seems not only
One problem:
One can have full control over the software source code copyright but not
over the patents that cover use of the software. If you don't have a
patent license, you can't use patented software.
The text should be modified to include specifications that one is given
control over the
I'm still concerned with not having the ability to sublicense rights
we have under this section.
The last time I discussed this issue Harald pointed out that I was
asking for more rights than we had under 3667.
However I have sense been convinced that 3667 is broken.
On Friday, January 21, 2005 15:40:31 +0100 Harald Tveit Alvestrand
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ISOC will permit IASA and its designee(s) to have sole control and
custodianship of such Developed Software, and ISOC
will not utilize or access such Developed Software in
connection with any ISOC func
On 1/21/2005 10:49, Bruce Lilly allegedly wrote:
Verbosity aside, I don't believe that "sole control and custodianship"
applies to open source software. I am not a lawyer, but the "Old text"
seems not only more easily comprehended [I am reminded of Jonathan
Swift's satirical look at lawyers in Gull
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
...
My biggest problem with this is size..
I think in the case of text resulting from legal review, that
is not something we should worry about.
Brian
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> Date: 2005-01-21 09:40
> From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> In this and a few later messages, I'm relaying comments from Jorge
> Contreras, the IETF's pro bono legal counsel.
>
> 1. ÂIntellectual Property. ÂI thi
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