Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless

2005-03-16 Thread Dennis Fazio
--On March 15, 2005 09:46:49 PM +0100 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If the meetings are planned much more ahead, there will be more resources, and even probably will not need for volunteers, because will be possible to find a host. I'll also have to dispute that a lack of

Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless

2005-03-16 Thread Henk Uijterwaal
Well, let's see: The problem: We want a network that is available from Sunday morning until Friday afternoon, with no interruptions, supports 1500 users in parallel using RF technology, supports the all latest protocols and services, with a help desk available to solve problems for the most

Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless

2005-03-16 Thread Dave Crocker
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:55:47 +0100, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:   So, if we really want this production level network, we should pay people   to do the work, and add the costs to the meeting fees.  If not, we should   accept that the volunteers are doing their best but that we will not have   a

Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless

2005-03-16 Thread Dennis Fazio
--On March 16, 2005 07:30:07 AM -0800 Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] that leaves equipment. how much would it cost us to have our own equipment? For those who would like to compute estimates, we used: 2 Juniper M10 routers with GigE and fiber ports 20 or so Cisco 3750 switch/routers

Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless

2005-03-16 Thread Pekka Savola
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Dennis Fazio wrote: 2 Juniper M10 routers with GigE and fiber ports 20 or so Cisco 3750 switch/routers with GigE and fiber ports 35 802.11 a/b/g access points with system management boxes 4 or 5 servers for DHCP, DNS, Radius, print queue, RFC cache, etc. I think it has seemed

Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless

2005-03-15 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Title: Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless Hi Karen, Thanks for your feedback. I was one of those having problems and not reporting it, but I didnt saw any email asking for more feedback after Monday, so I assumed the fixing work was on-going. Actually Id problems to read my

Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless

2005-03-15 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Title: Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless Hi Karen, For me getting the equipment, or even knowing what equipment with more than one week, is a matter of planning. Making sure that you can make some staging, access the venue earlier, and even more resources is also planning

Re:reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless

2005-03-15 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Keith, Absolutely not, was not my intention at all to suggest that. They do an excellent work. If the meetings are planned much more ahead, there will be more resources, and even probably will not need for volunteers, because will be possible to find a host. Even if we don't have a host,