Re: Request for community guidance on issue concerning afuture meeting of the IETF

2009-10-05 Thread Cullen Jennings
+1 to Adrian's suggestion. I'd love to hear from people who live in the PRC about any of the legal questions I have raised. Using specific previous IETF discussions seems a fine way to look at it in a very concrete way. So far I have heard in private from more than one person that is not

Re: [IAOC] Request for community guidance on issue concerning afuture meeting of the IETF

2009-10-05 Thread Cullen Jennings
On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Ole Jacobsen (ole) wrote: > > Does your above response mean that the host would not consider > slides and oral presentations made during working group sessions to > be part of "the Group's activities, visual or audio presentations at > the conference"? Or does your

RE: Request for community guidance on issue concerning afuture meeting of the IETF

2009-09-21 Thread Randall Gellens
At 11:00 AM -0400 9/21/09, David Harrington wrote: I have not found avoiding smoke in China much worse than in Europe. I find it much easier to avoid smoke in US cities. In my experience, it no longer makes sense to talk about smoking in "Europe" as the situation varies so much from country

RE: Request for community guidance on issue concerning afuture meeting of the IETF

2009-09-21 Thread David Harrington
Hi, Here are my impressions regarding the areas of concern you raise. > (1) The law and associated hotel rule Marshall quoted could be > violated by what may appear to IETF participants as technical > discussion. For example, the manipulation/censorship of Internet > traffic by or under orde

RE: [IAOC] Request for community guidance on issue concerning afuture meeting of the IETF

2009-09-21 Thread HUANG, ZHIHUI (JERRY), ATTLABS
s.mit.edu Subject: Re: [IAOC] Request for community guidance on issue concerning afuture meeting of the IETF > From: Steve Crocker > The Internet and the IETF are all about engaging, expanding, > communicating and being open. ... More than a billion people live in > China an

Re: Request for community guidance on issue concerning afuture meeting of the IETF

2009-09-20 Thread Adrian Farrel
On Sep 20, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: I'd be happy to have a WG meeting in the PRC - on topics other than those common to the security area, but I remain concerned about prior restraint for the IETF as a whole as a price of holding a meeting there. I wonder if we could ask.