Re: Please reject the patent-encumbered proposed standard for TLS authorization

Dear Sir; On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:06 PM, MBR wrote: Dear Noel, It's unfortunate, but I know of no way to tell the difference between an email address that's the main point of contact for an organization and an email address that distributes to a huge mailing list. I sent email to ietf@iet

TLS authorization and RedPhone Security patent

I was reading some news late today when I noticed this. http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/02/help-fight-this-patent-encumbered-ietf.html http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?blogid=14&entryid=1845 http://www.fsf.org/news/reoppose-tls-authz-standard Hopefully I'm not to la

Concern regarding Patented TLS Authorization spec

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have been made aware through my involvement in the Free Information and Free Software communities of a dangerous spec the IETF is about to push through regarding TLS. The FSF notice about the spec(s) in question is at

"TLS authorization" standard

Hello. I'm writing to you regarding the proposed standard "TLS authorization". Please stop the madness. It's bad enough that ISO lost a significant part of it's perceived independence, now we see IETF thinking about aproving a patent-encumbered standard. This kind o

Re: Please reject the patent-encumbered proposed standard for TLS authorization

Dear Noel, It's unfortunate, but I know of no way to tell the difference between an email address that's the main point of contact for an organization and an email address that distributes to a huge mailing list. I sent email to ietf@ietf.org, naively assuming that the Internet Engineering Ta

"TLS authorization"

Dear IETF I read on the Free Software Foundation's website tonight on how you plan to recommend a communication protocol that has a patent on it. I believe this is a horrible idea as the world wide web was founded on patent free standards; the W3 continued existence is because the web standard

Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions

free, open and therefore useful, they must not be encumbered by patents. You have before you for consideration an Internet-Draft entitled "Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions ". The proposed standard described in this document utilizes a patent granted to RedPhone Sec

TLS authorization standard

I oppose the IETF standard for TLS authorization until RedPhone provides a royalty-free license for all users. Failing to do so sets a bad precedent for future IETF standards adoption. Sincerely, Scott Mace Berkeley, California ___ Ietf mailing list

Please reject Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions

Hello, I am writing this email to request that the IETF reject the Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions (draft-housley-tls-authz-extns) as a proposed standard. The licensing declaration from RedPhone provides caveats that I believe leave opportunity for future claims against

Comment on proposed patent-encumbered TLS authorization standard

I am writing to express my strong opposition to the patent-encumbered standard for TLS authorization. Open, patent-free standards are vital to the continued health of the software engineering community as a whole. Any successful attempt to surreptitiously inject patent-encumbered standards

complains on Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions

Hello everybody! Please stop trying to include proprietary components and algorithms onto standarts! WBR, Mike Revenko, IT specialist. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

TLS authorization

I urge you to be vigilant in ensuring that no patent-encumbered standards are set. Standards must be open. Malcolm McQueen ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

TLS Authorization: Proposed Patent-Encumbered Standard

To whom it may concern: I'm writing this letter to ask you to not approve proposed patent-encumbered standard for TLS Authorization. Standards encumbered by patents, as you should know well, hurt the industrial and technological progress, as well as the trust put on standards organizations

Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions

As a developer of a network IDS (http://realeyes.sourceforge.net) that is licensed under the GPL, I am very concerned about the proposed patent-encumbered standard for TLS authorization. If this becomes a recommended standard, I am afraid that I would not be able to include analysis of it in my

serious concerns on TLS authorization standard enclosure

world they define. In February 2006, a standard for "TLS authorization" was introduced in the IETF for consideration. Very late in the discussion, a company called RedPhone Security disclosed (this disclosure has subsequently been unpublished from the IETF website) that they app

TLS AUTHORIZATION STANDARD PROPOSAL

Internet Engineering Task Force members: The standard for TLS authorization that was introduced in the IETF for consideration isn't really a standard but, a restriction because the technology depends on, or is at least encumbered by, the patent that Redphone has applied for. A sta

TLS authorization

I am writing to ask you not to approve the proposed patent-encumbered standard for TLS authorization. To do so would fly in the face of the IETF's fundamental commitment to openness. It would weaken not just the standard itself, but the IETF's authority in this sphere. At a time whe

Please do not approve standard for TLS authorization

Please do not approve the proposed patent encumbered standard for TLS authorization. There must be an alternative. Please push back. Open standards which can be used by everybody (rich or poor) are extremely important to the development of and access to the internet ... This is a PRIVATE

RedPhone Patent On TLS Authorization

Please Sir, I do not believe that using patented code or components within TLS Authorization protocols or Standards is at all a good idea, and I strongly disapprove of the proposal for a standard for TLS by RedPhone that would use such patents. I believe that approval of such a standard could

Request for "TLS Authorization Extensions" Rejection

Dear IETF committee members, I believe that IETF supports the advance of the Internet by publishing free and open standards that everyone can freely use. Unfortunately, a proposed standard entitled "TLS Authorization Extensions" is not free to be used by anyone. The main conce

re: (TLS) Authorization Extensions

To Whom It May Concern; I am writing to ask you not to approve the proposed patent-encumbered standard for TLS authorisation. To do so would fly in the face of the IETF's fundamental commitment to openness. It would weaken not just the standard itself, but the IETF's authority in this sphere. A

comments on IETF proposed "TLS authorization"

Good folks, After receiving the briefing email from the FSF, I am moved to send you this note requesting that the "TLS authorization" standard not go forward until/unless "RedPhone provide a royalty-free license for all users" or equivalent arrangement. Sincerely,

TLS authorization

Dear IETF, Please do not follow through with the patent-laden TLS authorization spec. The internet thrives on being open, and requiring us to pay homage to any one entity (RedPhone Security) to use the internet is only going to backfire. Please rethink this. The internet was created in the spirit

TLS authorization

I am writing to ask you not to approve the proposed patent-encumbered standard for TLS authorization. To do so would fly in the face of the IETF's fundamental commitment to openness. It would weaken not just the standard itself, but the IETF's authority in this sphere. At a time whe

Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions

To Whom It May Concern: In February 2006, a standard for <http://tools.ietf.org/wg/tls/draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt>"TLS authorization" was introduced in the IETF for consideration. Very late in the discussion, a company called RedPhone Security <https://datatrack

Scrub proposed patented standard for "TLS authorization"

I have come to know that the patented-standard that was scrubbed in February 2006 has resurfaced again and is now a "proposed standard". I would suggest that this standard be not approved unless the patent threat is removed entirely with a royalty-free license for all users. We depend on your orga

Regarding TLS authorization

Dear Sir / Madam, Bangladesh Open Source Network is the umbrella organization of open source initiavies and open source projects in Bangladesh. We are working to spread the philosophy of open source in south asian region. As the recent 'Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Exten

TLS authorization

n any way. Accepting TLS authorization would give RedPhone Security enormous advantage in their business. There are two options for IETF: 1. Force RPS to give royalty-free license to everyone. 2. Create a competiting free standard. -- Łukasz Stelmach e-mail: lukasz.stelm...@iem.pw.edu.pl W

TLS Authorization Standard

IETF: I am writing to inform you that I am strongly opposed to the proposed TLS Authorization standard. The standard is encumbered by a patent from RedPhone Security which could endanger the ability of developers to create programs that use this proposed standard. While RedPhone has issued a

Please Do Not Approve the Proposed Patent-Encumbered Standard for TLS Authorization.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Sirs: I am writing to ask you not to approve the proposed patent-encumbered standard for TLS authorization. To do so would fly in the face of the IETF's fundamental commitment to openness. It would weaken not just the standard i

I oppose TLS authorization

I urge that ITEF not approve TLS authorization standard at or on any level unless the patent threat is removed entirely with a royalty-free license for all users. George Demmy Atlanta, Georgia, USA ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https

Request to refuse TLS authorization standard

To whom it may concern, I urge you to reconsider the adoption of the proposed TLS authorization standard in light of the potential patent threat that it poses. Although RedPhone has offered license to anyone implements the protocol, they have left the option open to sue anyone who does

Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions

Dear Sirs, The proposal in object has a changed status from "experimental" to "proposed standard". Unfortunately, such a proposal is encumbered by a patent. That patent in question is claimed by RedPhone Security. RedPhone has given a license to anyone who implements the protocol, but they still th

Please REJECT proposal for "TLS authorization" standard

Dear members of IETF, as far as I've understood, the IETF has been called to evaluate the proposal for a standard for "TLS authorization" which, as far as I know, is patent encumbered. That patent in question is claimed by RedPhone Security. RedPhone has given a licens

Opposing the TLS authorization standard

Hello, I am writing because I am concerned about the proposed TLS authorization standard (draft-housley-tls-authz-extns) that the IETF is considering. I understand that the IETF rejected a similar standard in 2006 due to potential patent conflicts with RedPhone Security. Despite the fact that

Regarding Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions

Fellow members of the IETF: I would like to add my voice to those who have expressed discontent in the proposed TLS Authorization Extensions. The use of a Patented standard (especially one that may have such patents legally enforced, as in the case of RedPhone) appears to me to be in violation

Re: TLS authorization

Hello, I support FSF's concern regarding patent-encumbered standard proposal on TLS auth extensions laid out here: http://www.fsf.org/news/reoppose-tls-authz-standard Being a programmer, systems administrator and free software supporter over the years, I don't think yielding to software

"Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions" (draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07)

standards. Note that GnuTLS removed their implementation of the TLS Authorization Extensions for this reason. I urge the IETF to oppose the extensions until RedPhone Security commits to royalty-free licensing. -- Tim Retout ___ Ietf mailing list Iet

Prevent approval of "TLS authorization"!

Dear IETF, I'm very concerned about Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions Standard! I am very disappointed with your decision to give a chance to a patented technology (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1026/) to become a standard. Please, don't give green light t

TLS authorization

would like to register my most adamant disapproval of this new this TLS authorization standard if it contains patented technology. I hope you make the correct decision for our children's futures. Matthew Alborough ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@iet

Comments on IETF's TLS Authorization Standard

Sirs, As a body upon whom the developers world-wide depend to provide interoperable communications standards, I would strongly encourage the IETF to endorse only open standards and to refuse proprietary standards of any kind unless provided royalty-free and litigation-free by their owners to the w

TLS Authorization

Sirs: The proposed TLS authorization will create unnecessary restrictions on internet computer communications. Royalty-free licensing might be the only acceptable way in which this should become a standard. I would hope that IETF will oppose this standard in its current form. Sheldon Gruber

Patented TLS authorization technology

Dear task force, It has come to my knowledge that you are considering approving the use of patented technology for TLS authorization. I think this is a bad idea, as it would make it impossible to legally write free software for such authorization. I seriously hope you will eliminate patented

I oppose the IETF approval of the RedPhone patent on a TLS authorization standard.

(IESG) to evaluate new proposals for standards that make sure I am not encumbered by patents or any other sort of restriction preventing free software users such as myself and programmers from participating in the world we define. In February 2006, a standard for "TLS authorization" was int

TLS Authorization standard proposal

Hi, I have received word that a new standard regarding "TLS authorization" has been brought forward for your consideration. I urge you to dismiss it as a company that goes by the name of RedPohone is claiming that they own a patent on the technology. In order to ensure that fair compe

Proposed TLS Authorization Standard

Hi there, I'd like to add my small voice to the campaign by the Free Software Foundation against the proposed patent-encumbered standard for TLS authorization. See campai...@fsf.org. As I understand it, the company RedPhone Security claim a patent which would have to be licensed by a

TLS Authorization Extensions

Hello, I have recently learned that IETF is working on accepting "TLS Authorization Extensions". The standard is hindered by a patent, and the patent holder is threatening to sue anyone who uses the protocol without obtaining a license. As a software service provider, I am opp

Urgent: TLS authorization standard proposal

Hello, since Feb 2006 there is an ongoing proposal for an IETF standard on "TLS authorization". Unfortunately this standard is encumbered by a patent from RedPhone Security. While this company has agreed to provide a royalty-free license for implementors it has so far refrained fro

On the TLS authorization proposed standard

Dear IETF committee members, In February 2006, a standard for "TLS authorization" was introduced in the IETF for consideration. Very late in the discussion, a company called RedPhone Security disclosed (this disclosure has subsequently been unpublished from the IETF website) that th

TLS authorization

I oppose standardizing "TLS authorization" until such time as RedPhone Security provide a royalty-free license for all users. Gill Fitzgerald oldf...@gmail.com Home: 520.399.2604 | Mobile: 520.270.1169 262 S. Paseo Madera Unit A, Green Valley, AZ

TLS Authorization.

Dear IETF. It has come to my attention that you are considering implementing a patent-encumbered standard or process for TLS Authorization. It is my and many others opinion that Internet standards should be composed entirely of free and open source components. Prior experience has shown that

TLS authorization standard patent

Dear Sir/Madam, Please do not approve the TLS authorization standard that includes a patent by RedPhone Security unless they agree to a royalty-free license. The Internet has grown and been successful due to its open and free nature. Many companies have attempted to restrict our freedom

IETF should reject acceptance of TLS Authorization

Dear IETF - The IETF should reject acceptance of the Transport Layer Security Authorizations Exetension (TLS Authorization) as a standard. Since use of this proposed standard is protected by a patent issued to RedPhone Security and since RedPhone has not made a free license available to any and

TLS Authorization Standard

This is a request that the patent-encumbered standard for TLS authorization involving a patent claimed by RedPhone Security not be approved unless the patent threat is entirely removed with a royalty-free license for all users. A patent encumbered standard for TLS authorization would put another

Please reject the patent-encumbered proposed standard for TLS authorization

. Adoption of any patent-encumbered standard will inevitably guarantee the eventual fragmentation of the Internet into competing fiefdoms unwilling and eventually unable to communicate with each other. *I therefore strongly urge you to reject the proposed standard for TLS authorization that is

Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions

Sirs, I oppose said proposed standard (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt) Looking at https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1026/ : in section VI, points 2, 3 and 4 must not be accepted for a standard; point 1 is objectionable, but at least I agree to discuss i

Protest against adopting Protocol for TLS Authorization Patented by "RedPhone Security"

Dear IETF, I am writing to vigorously protest against the adoption of a standard for "TLS authorization" based on a patented method. The progress of the Internet should not be obstructed by the greed of companies that attempt to impose control over who should be allowed to use specif

Opposition to "standard" for TLS authorization from Turkey

Dear IETF, As software responsible for a large K-12 school in Turkey I want to strongly oppose RedPhone's "standard" for TLS authorization. Companies and organization in developing countries like Turkey finally start to understand the benefits free software has to offer. It is very

Do not approve patent-encumbered TLS-authorization

I am writing in opposition to the proposed TLS authorization standard which is encumbered by a RedPhone patent. Unless the RedPhone patent threat is removed entirely with a royalty-free license for all users, this proposal must be rejected. I understand that in February 2006 a TLS

TLS authorization proposed standard

Please do not approve the "TLS authorization" proposal. I worked extensively with TLS in my academic work in grad school, and eventually left the security field because improvements to security technologies are so difficult to get into use. The IETF is one of the few bodi

TLS authorization

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear members of IETF, as far as I've understood, the IETF has been called to evaluate the proposal for a standard for "TLS authorization" which, as far as I know, is patent encumbered. That patent in question is claimed by Re

TLS-authorization standard

We depend on organizations like the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) and the Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG) to evaluate new proposals for standards and make sure that they are not encumbered by patents or any other sort of restriction that would prevent free software users and pro

TLS authorization

I am writing to voice my disapproval with a patent-encumbered standard for TLS authorization. The proposed standard: (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/tls/draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt) contains a patent held by RedPhone Security, which has given a license to anyone who implements the protocol

Please Reject "TLS Authorization Extensions"

Dear IETF committee members: I am sure that it is in IETF's best interest to promote the advance of the Internet by publishing free and open standards that everyone can freely use. However, a proposed standard titled "TLS Authorization Extensions" (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/tl

TLS authorization

Dear IETF staff, My name is Daniel Richman, and I strongly oppose the proposed "TLS authorization" standard, with a patent claimed by "RedPhone Security." I believe that the protocols of the Internet, a system initially designed for research and collaboration, should

"TLS authorization" proposed standard

Hello! I'm writing in because I've been made aware that the IETF is considering a standard (currently called "TLS authorization") that would be encumbered by a patent. In this case, that patent is held by a company called RedPhone. I have held the IETF and its work in the hig

red hat TLS authorization application

I am opposed to the Red Hat application for the TLS authoriztion. I am opposed to any effort to commercialize and monopolize any aspect of the internet communication/interface technology. Already I have to pay for my computer to do anything on the Internet. Then I have to pay $50.00 per month to

Oppose Current TLS Authorization Standard

proposals for standards and make sure that they are not encumbered by patents or any other sort of restriction that would prevent free software users and programmers from participating in the world they define. In February 2006, a standard for "TLS authorization" was introduced in th

Against proposed TLS authorization standard

new proposals for standards and make sure that they are not encumbered by patents or any other sort of restriction that would prevent free software users and programmers from participating in the world they define. In February 2006, a standard for "TLS authorization" was introduced in th

TLS authorization standard

Dear Sirs, I must protest at the proposed standard for Transport Layer Security (TLS) authorization being encumbered by a patent. It is essential that there be means available to all without cost to secure e-mail and other communication: this and other protocols are needed as part of the public

TLS authorization

Please do not approve the propsed standard for "TLS authorization". Open standards must not be hobbled by patents and restrictive licensing. Sincerely, Edward Bishop ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

please reject attempt to standardize proprietary TLS authorization protocol

If successful, RedPhone Security's bid to standardize their proprietary TLS authorization proposal would unleash a tidal wave of litigation.One need only look at the difficulties caused by Rambus' promulgation of a proprietary memory standard to see what ugly and wasteful conse

TLS authorization

Dear IETF, Please denounce experimental or informational patents to standards. This is just as it appears, sneaky and underhanded. Next thing you know our liberties and freedoms will become experimental and informational. I am seriously disturbed by people always patent holdin

Reject the "experimental" TLS authorization proposal

A proposal for the TLS authorization standard from RedPhone Security, for which RPS has applied for a patent, has already been rejected for official standardization. However, RPS is now trying to circumvent the (very well-advised) standing no-patent policy by submitting is for consideration as an

TLS Authorization

Please do not allow TLS-authorization to become a standard or even an experimental one. Standards need to be open, and it isn't. Alex Bryan Centennial, Colorado 80015 ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Comment on TLS authorization

Please do not ratify the "TLS authorization" standard as experimental or informational, unless the patent holders agree to a royalty-free license for all users. Allowing patented standards to be promoted under the IETF sends a bad message, and creates a two tier system: unencumbered

No bad TLS authorization standards

Dear Sir or Madam: Please do not harm free software interests by supporting the "experimental" TLS standard. Thank you for your time and consideration. -Jeff Hankins ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

TLS Authorization

Dear IETF, I would like to echo the comments of the FSF in regards to patents in standards. I believe MPEG is a good example of standards and patents working horribly together. Please do not make that same mistake with TLS Authorization. Thank You, Bryan Quigley -- Please avoid sending me Word

TLS Authorization Extensions

I am writing to urge the IETF to reject the TLS Authorization Extensions, unless the Extensions can be implemented fully (including all Authorizations and access control methods) without royalty or other encumbrance. Freely implementable IETF standards are vital to the openness of the internet

Concerns on TLS authorization extensions

I'm a software developer who relies on royalty free standards that the IETF has worked so hard to provide that make the web the success it is. As such I was troubled by an issue the Free Software Foundation raised about IETF accepting a patented technology that if used by me in a software produc

Experimental TLS Authorization Standard

I trust the IETF to not endorse any manner of "standard" that is encumbered by one or more patents. All standards must be implementable by whosoever will without the need to license technology. The provision of nonretractable royalty-free licensing available to whosoever will may be sufficient to