Re: Time Shifting of Internet Traffic

2010-09-14 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2010-09-14 13:46, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: I am not finding the net neutrality debate according to K-Street to be very useful or stimulating. +1. No, +100. At the end of the day we have a limited amount of bandwidth available and we can help matters if people co-operate where it is

Re: Time Shifting of Internet Traffic

2010-09-14 Thread Richard L. Barnes
Isn't this also basically the point of LEDBAT and CONEX? For applications to sense congestion and back off aggressively -- i.e., to time-shift themselves into the future? On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2010-09-14 13:46, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: I am not

Re: Time Shifting of Internet Traffic

2010-09-14 Thread Richard Bennett
There's future and then there's future. LEDBAT wants to sense congestion and back off to allow other apps with more pressing needs to use particular pipes, not so much to defer as to find less congested paths. The LEDBAT assumption is that there are many paths to the content, and in fact many