Re: Issue #719: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC (IASA transition te

2004-12-16 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Scott Bradner wrote: I actually wonder if this is an issue for the IASA BCP document, because it is about the Transition Team Transparency. I do not think it is So I propose to remobve it from the iasa-bcp queue or declare it as No change needed. makes sense to me Agreed Brian

Issue #719: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC (IASA transition te am question)

2004-12-15 Thread Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
AS recorded at: https://rt.psg.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=719 I actually wonder if this is an issue for the IASA BCP document, because it is about the Transition Team Transparency. So I propose to remobve it from the iasa-bcp queue or declare it as No change needed. Bert

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-09 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On onsdag, desember 08, 2004 11:44:01 -0500 Margaret Wasserman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I think that the IAOC should post all correspondence, and I don't think that this is an onerous requirement. It is not likely that there will be all that much non-electronic communication, such

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-09 Thread John Loughney
Brian's response seems reasonable to me. John --- Original message --- Subject: Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC From: Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Time: 12/08/2004 3:53 pm Margaret Wasserman wrote: Hi All, In reviewing the IASA BCP draft, I

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-09 Thread John Morris
the wording needs to be carefully done Scott - Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:00:43 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Bradner) From: Margaret Wasserman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Scott, At 12:36 PM -0500 12/8/04, Scott Bradner wrote: Actually

Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Hi All, In reviewing the IASA BCP draft, I noticed that there are no specific requirements regarding the level of transparency or openness expected from the IAOC. IMO, we should be careful to start this activity with a well-established understanding regarding the level of transparency and

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Margaret Wasserman wrote: Hi All, In reviewing the IASA BCP draft, I noticed that there are no specific requirements regarding the level of transparency or openness expected from the IAOC. IMO, we should be careful to start this activity with a well-established understanding regarding the

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Margaret Wasserman
To respond to my own questions (not al lo fmy answers are 'yes'): Do we expect the IAOC to keep minutes of their meetings and post them publicly (unless there is a specific reason not to post a certain section)? Specific reasons might include: personnel issue and/or sensitive

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Scott Bradner
Actually, I think that the IAOC should post all correspondence that would contract negotiations fun Scott ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Most contract negotiations that I've been involved in have not involved the exchange of snail mail or faxes until after the terms are complete and the signatures are being exchanged. Margaret At 12:21 PM -0500 12/8/04, Scott Bradner wrote: Actually, I think that the IAOC should post all

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Scott Bradner
Actually, I think that the IAOC should post all correspondence Most contract negotiations that I've been involved in have not involved the exchange of snail mail or faxes until after the terms are complete and the signatures are being exchanged. 1/ I took all correspondence to mean all

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Hi Scott, At 12:36 PM -0500 12/8/04, Scott Bradner wrote: Actually, I think that the IAOC should post all correspondence 1/ I took all correspondence to mean all correspondence But, when I said all correspondence, I didn't mean _all_ correspondence... :-) Okay, so this obviously needs to be

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Scott Bradner
:43 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Bradner) From: Margaret Wasserman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Scott, At 12:36 PM -0500 12/8/04, Scott Bradner wrote: Actually, I think that the IAOC should post all correspondence 1/ I took all

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Bob Braden
* For instance, we were sent a budget that included a proposed RFC * Editor cost of ~$800,000. This cost is based on a Statement of Work * (SOW) that was negotiated between the IAB and the RFC Editor. Do we * (the IETF community) have access to that SOW? (I don't actually know *

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Leslie Daigle
Margaret Wasserman wrote: Hi All, In reviewing the IASA BCP draft, I noticed that there are no specific requirements regarding the level of transparency or openness expected from the IAOC. IMO, we should be careful to start this activity with a well-established understanding regarding the

Re: Transparency/Openness of the IAOC

2004-12-08 Thread Margaret Wasserman
The full SOW for 2004 is on the ISOC web site, at www.isoc.org/standards/rfceditor/sow.shtml. A less detailed form is on the RFC Editor web site, at www.rfc-editor.org/DOCUMENTS/purpose.html. Thanks, Bob! I thought it was posted somewhere, but I couldn't find it. Sorry. Margaret