Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-23 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
All - I would like to extend the Consensus Call on the IETF Trust for one additional week until December 2nd. Feedback to the IETF list has been sparse, but there has been some traffic on the IPR-WG list and a few comments directed to the IAOC. Additional clarification has been requested on severa

Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-30 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
Greetings - In response to concerns raised about the licensing provisions described in section 9.5 of the IETF Trust the Settlors have agreed to modify the language as follows: "9.5 Licenses. The Trust (acting through the Trustees) shall have the right to grant licenses for the use of the Trust

Re: Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-23 Thread Scott Bradner
> I would like to extend the Consensus Call on the IETF Trust for one > additional week until December 2nd. fwiw - I think that the IPR trust is basically the right path to take considering the circumstances but I would like to see answers to John's issues before proceeding and join John in requ

Re: Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-23 Thread Dave Crocker
has had a chance to comment on them - thus, while it is good to extend the last call, I'd like to see it extended to a week after clarifications Lucy notes in her posting have been sent to the IETF list. yes. it would be good to have the thing that is actually signed reflect the consensus

Re: Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-23 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Dave Crocker wrote: > > > > > has had a chance to comment on them - thus, while it is good to > > extend the last call, I'd like to see it extended to a week after > > clarifications Lucy notes in her posting have been sent to the IETF list. > > yes. > > it would be good to ha

Re: Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-24 Thread Geoff Huston
riences in a related area, I cannot respond affirmatively to this Consensus Call on the IETF on the document as it currently stands. regards, Geoff Huston At 09:38 AM 24/11/2005, Leslie Daigle wrote: Forwarded on behalf of Lucy. Leslie. Original Message ---- Subject: Upd

Re: Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-26 Thread John C Klensin
Geoff, FWIW, when I first read the thing, I had much the same reaction you did. I then took a further step, which I would encourage you and others to do as well. The IAOC has concluded that this trust arrangement is, on balance in the best interests of the community. Perhaps for good reas

Re: Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-26 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 04:28:50AM -0500, John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 113 lines which said: > The IAOC has concluded that this trust arrangement is, on balance in > the best interests of the community. > But, unless I misunderstand the situation, asking that the veto

Re: Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-27 Thread John C Klensin
--On Saturday, 26 November, 2005 22:16 +0100 Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 04:28:50AM -0500, > John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > a message of 113 lines which said: > >> The IAOC has concluded that this trust arrangement is, on >> balance in

Re: Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-27 Thread Geoff Huston
* I infer that the IAOC has concluded that the present draft agreement is about as good as we are going to get, at least without abandoning this path, discarding the work of the last nine or ten months, and trying something else entirely. The inference

Re: Update: IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-11-27 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On mandag, november 28, 2005 12:41:43 +1100 Geoff Huston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The virtual consensus question I responded to last week was along the lines of "Is this the best of all possible outcomes for the IETF's IPR?", and my response was "no, I do not believe so". In making that

Final Update - IETF Trust Consensus Call

2005-12-02 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
All - The amended language for Section 9.5 (Licensing) of the IETF Trust was posted to the IETF lists on December 1st and the IETF Trust FAQ has been updated to reflect the new text (see below). We have also added additional details on the handling of historical data. As we develop procedures for