At 9:14 PM -0800 11/16/04, Michel Py wrote:
And it's not such a big deal to run a big site, apparently:
TorrentBits.org is situated on a dedicated server in the Netherlands.
For the moment we have monthly running costs of approximately ยค 213.
Another popular music torrent site (not based in the
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Yahoo is not using ESMTP
This is interesting, because on our side of the world, when I do an
analysis, I can see that mail is about 30% of the TCP traffic, with the
web being about 40% of TCP traffic.
I guess we do not have the same needs over very slow links
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Franck Martin wrote:
This is interesting, because on our side of the world, when I do an
analysis, I can see that mail is about 30% of the TCP traffic, with the
web being about 40% of TCP traffic.
I guess we do not have the same needs over very slow links...
Look more
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was in a spam workshop yesterday and a guy was saying that spam was
a bandwidth issue. I suppose it is if you are on the end of a slow
link and (therefore?) all you are doing is e-mail: a big chunk of
everything you do is always a lot.
Being on dialup also
What Michael said. This is probably below the radar for now because,
so far, BitTorrent trading of large files (regular TV shows and
pirated movies) is more popular in Asia and Europe than in the US.
Even on the well-known BitTorrent ports, there is a *huge* amount of
trading going on. To make
So from the WSIS/WGIG perspective I am being asked: is spam a
significant (network) problem for certain parts of the world?
Maybe more importantly: will it still be so in UN timescales?
Yes it is a major problem. e.g., see
Paul Hoffman / VPNC wrote:
What Michael said. This is probably below the radar for now
because, so far, BitTorrent trading of large files (regular TV
shows and pirated movies) is more popular in Asia and Europe
than in the US.
Indeed, I made that very point on Nanog a couple months ago. But
Hi -
From: Fred Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sean Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 3:40 AM
Subject: RE: Yahoo is not using ESMTP
...
http://www.caida.org/dynamic/analysis/workload/sdnap/0_0_/ts_top_n_app_bytes.html)
would lead me to believe.
I
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:40:35 EST, Fred Baker said:
That is the ISP's choice. As a percentage of total volume, SMTP/ESMTP is a
small proportion of total traffic, or so please I can read sample
measurements (like
http://www.caida.org/dynamic/analysis/workload/sdnap/0_0_/ts_top_n_app_bytes.
At 09:36 AM 11/15/04 -0800, Randy Presuhn wrote:
The protocol distribution is different now, though still not showing much
SMTP compared to HTTP, etc.
:^)
Like any other internet link, it changes from millisecond to millisecond.
large components tend to include tcp-other, http, and so on.
It
At 01:33 PM 11/15/04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Umm.. what *exactly* is upstream of that interface? I strongly suspect
that it's *heavily* influenced by *local* preferences/configuration.
:^)
Care to speculate on the existence of any measurement point in the internet
that is not heavily
Fred Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That is the ISP's choice. As a percentage of total volume,
SMTP/ESMTP is a small proportion of total traffic, or so please I
can read sample measurements (like
http://www.caida.org/dynamic/analysis/workload/sdnap/0_0_/ts_top_n_app_bytes.html)
would lead
This is interesting, because on our side of the world, when I do an
analysis, I can see that mail is about 30% of the TCP traffic, with the
web being about 40% of TCP traffic.
I guess we do not have the same needs over very slow links...
Cheers
stanislav shalunov wrote:
Fred Baker [EMAIL
Fred Baker wrote:
But frankly, every sample I have seen in the past decade placed
SMTP in the noise category, a single digit percentage or less.
There might be a handful of exceptions (people in the middle of nowhere
with a dial-up worth of bandwidth and/or relying exclusively on pricey
In many situations around the world in developing countries, it is
totally impossible to send a 10MB e-mail because the link will be at
least break once in the time it takes to send 10MB. As e-mail does not
resume...
FWIW, RFC 1845 specifies such a mechanism for SMTP. There have been
few
ned freed writes:
In many situations around the world in developing countries, it is
totally impossible to send a 10MB e-mail because the link will be
at least break once in the time it takes to send 10MB. As e-mail
does not resume...
FWIW, RFC 1845 specifies such a mechanism for SMTP. There
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Franck == Franck Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Franck In many situations around the world in developing countries,
Franck it is totally impossible to send a 10MB e-mail because the
Franck link will be at least break once in the time it takes to
On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 18:11 +0100, Simon Leinen wrote:
There are still many countries which only connection to the
Internet is a 64kb/s and quite a lot which speed is below 512kb/s
Developed countries and the IETF need to cater for these emerging
nations to avoid the digital divide.
On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 11:00 -0500, Michael Richardson wrote:
Franck I think as yahoo being a major e-mail provider it would be
Franck good, that they become more responsible (they are actively
Franck fighting SPAM) and use ESMTP when sending their e-mails. It
Franck seems
Off course not.
In many situations around the world in developing countries, it is totally impossible to send a 10MB e-mail because the link will be at least break once in the time it takes to send 10MB. As e-mail does not resume...
There are still many countries which only connection to the
Hi all,
I'm not sure where to bring this information and any help would be most appreciated.
I have noticed that yahoo mail is using SMTP and not ESMTP. This is quite an issue in bandwidth saving as now the size limit for mail on yahoo is 10MB if I'm not mistaken. In many places in the world
Should ISP's increase the minimum acceptable attachment size to 10M?
If anything this will burden the Internet even more.
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