RE: authorizing subsequent use of contributions

2008-08-25 Thread Powers Chuck-RXCP20
- From: Simon Josefsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:21 PM To: Brian E Carpenter Cc: John C Klensin; Powers Chuck-RXCP20; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but it doesn't

Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions

2008-08-19 Thread Brian E Carpenter
: authorizing subsequent use of contributions --On Friday, August 15, 2008 4:48 PM +0200 Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, the IPR WG, in its wisdom, has concluded, in some phrasing that was changed fairly late in the game

Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions

2008-08-19 Thread Simon Josefsson
Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the result will (appropriately) be to have more finely tuned IPR declarations, which make it clear that the declaration is targeted at the specific standard in question, and is not applicable beyond that, inside or outside of the IETF

Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions

2008-08-19 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2008-08-20 12:03, Simon Josefsson wrote: Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the result will (appropriately) be to have more finely tuned IPR declarations, which make it clear that the declaration is targeted at the specific standard in question, and is not applicable beyond

Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions

2008-08-19 Thread Simon Josefsson
Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that our rules (both old and proposed new) only allow two very specific deviations from the grant of license for derivative works. Agreed. I assumed Chuck talked about patent disclosures when he said IPR

authorizing subsequent use of contributions

2008-08-15 Thread Simon Josefsson
John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, the IPR WG, in its wisdom, has concluded, in some phrasing that was changed fairly late in the game, that the IETF Trust should get enough rights in I-Ds to authorize all sorts of subsequent uses of them and their content, with no time limit.

Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions

2008-08-15 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, August 15, 2008 4:48 PM +0200 Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, the IPR WG, in its wisdom, has concluded, in some phrasing that was changed fairly late in the game, that the IETF Trust should get enough rights in I-Ds

RE: authorizing subsequent use of contributions

2008-08-15 Thread Powers Chuck-RXCP20
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John C Klensin Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:23 PM To: Simon Josefsson Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions --On Friday, August 15, 2008 4:48 PM +0200

Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions

2008-08-15 Thread Simon Josefsson
Powers Chuck-RXCP20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IMO this simply underscores the valid separation of patent rights and copyright rights in the IETF process, that some still seem to be confused over. Indeed, and I believe that various IETF documents' prolific use of the term IPR has significantly