Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-10-02 Thread Dean Anderson
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:02:48 -0400 Ken Raeburn wrote: > I'm sad to say, I've actually looked at a little of the stuff you've posted on > the web page you set up recently, concerning Ted Ts'o. I picked the "July 1" > off-list stuff to look at, briefly. From that admittedly small sample... let > m

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-10-01 Thread Dean Anderson
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: I didn't see this message from Ken Raeburn go to the IETF list. [I just found it on the IETF archive site, I will respond in detail shortly. Strangely, I should have received 2 copies, one to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and one from the IETF list. I have

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-30 Thread Dave Crocker
Alexis Turner wrote: Geez, Harald. You misspelled "off." Am I going to have to virtually crucify you in front of the list for this? yes. -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking +1.408.246.8253 dcrocker a t ... WE'VE MOVED to: www.bbiw.net

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-29 Thread Alexis Turner
Geez, Harald. You misspelled "off." Am I going to have to virtually crucify you in front of the list for this? -Alexis On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: ::I think you illustrate quite well why I'm glad I don't have to talk to Dean ::Anderson any more. :: ::Any conversation wh

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-29 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On torsdag, september 29, 2005 17:02:48 -0400 Ken Raeburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, to summarize my look at a few of the messages: You both lose points for some of your statements or how you tried to make your arguments, and the accuracy of the summary page is questionable. None of i

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-29 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Sep 29, 2005, at 9:39, Dean Anderson wrote: Let me ask you Ken: Are you participating in the IETF as part of your job? Or are you just here for personal kicks? It's part of my job; has been for a few years. It has nothing to do with legal standing. Its a question of etiquette. Office

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-29 Thread Dean Anderson
Let me ask you Ken: Are you participating in the IETF as part of your job? Or are you just here for personal kicks? On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Ken Raeburn wrote: > Perhaps there is no legal standing for an expectation of privacy. It has nothing to do with legal standing. Its a question of etiquett

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-28 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Sep 28, 2005, at 21:20, Dean Anderson wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Dave Singer wrote: This was offlist, but I think it is relevant, now to similar questions raised by others. Yes, emailed to you offlist. Do you have NO idea of professional courtesy? You do not post personal emails by other

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-28 Thread Dean Anderson
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Dave Singer wrote: > >This was offlist, but I think it is relevant, now to similar > >questions raised by > >others. > > Yes, emailed to you offlist. Do you have NO idea of professional > courtesy? You do not post personal emails by other people without > their permissio

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-28 Thread Dave Singer
At 20:04 -0400 28/09/05, Dean Anderson wrote: This was offlist, but I think it is relevant, now to similar questions raised by others. My apologies to the list. I emailed Dean off-list, and was not asked for, and hence did not give, permission to reproduce my email on-list. I'm sorry if t

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-28 Thread Dean Anderson
This was offlist, but I think it is relevant, now to similar questions raised by others. I will put the original messages at http://www.av8.net/IETF-watch/Tytso.html I will try to have this done tonight. Offlist, Ted has said he has no recollection of me. Indeed, I did not meet him. I wasn't s