draft-IAB-rfc-editor-00: IAB Charter and IAB

2006-06-21 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi. I sent in some comments a while back and they sparked a lively discussion. However I don't think I made the point I was trying to make successfully and think because of lack of clarity on my part my point came out much more controversial than I had hoped. So, here's try #2. First, I under

Re: draft-IAB-rfc-editor-00: IAB Charter and IAB

2006-06-22 Thread Bob Braden
*> *> *> I also understand there is a long recorded history of interactions *> with the RFC editor. (There is an even longer oral tradition, but I *> trust that we all see the undesirability of making governance *> decisions about a million dollar/year organization based on oral

Re: draft-IAB-rfc-editor-00: IAB Charter and IAB

2006-06-22 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bob" == Bob Braden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bob>While the IETF needs to be able to manage its revenue Bob> streams against its expense expectations, it also needs to Bob> respect the needs of supporting organizations to manage their Bob> own affairs. That is, the te

Re: draft-IAB-rfc-editor-00: IAB Charter and IAB

2006-06-22 Thread Bob Braden
*> *> > "Bob" == Bob Braden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: *> *> *> Bob>While the IETF needs to be able to manage its revenue *> Bob> streams against its expense expectations, it also needs to *> Bob> respect the needs of supporting organizations to manage their

Re: draft-IAB-rfc-editor-00: IAB Charter and IAB

2006-06-22 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bob" == Bob Braden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bob> I must confess that I did not quite understand your concerns Bob> (my fault, I am sure). Some discussions of the IETF Bob> administrative functions have bordered on micro-management, I Bob> believe, but I did not intend to

Re: draft-IAB-rfc-editor-00: IAB Charter and IAB

2006-06-23 Thread Brian E Carpenter
BTW, the IASA has formulated its approach to this balance: http://koi.uoregon.edu/~iaoc/docs/IASA-Tao.pdf and it certainly doesn't include micro-managing the budget. Brian Sam Hartman wrote: "Bob" == Bob Braden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bob> I must confess that I did not quite under