draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread James M. Polk
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt I do not see why this ID should be limited to the Routing area... The Application of General Internet specifications should consider the Operations and Management of the Security surrounding Transport of morality

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread Ole Jacobsen
ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt > > I do not see why this ID should be limited to the Routing area... > > The Application of General Internet specifications should consider the > Operations and Management of the Security surrounding Transport of mo

RE: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread Glen Zorn \(gwz\)
Ole Jacobsen <> wrote: > Indeed. > > People polled after the election said they put Moral Values as the #1 > priorty. Just one question: when did minding your own business cease to be a "moral value"? > I see no reason why the previous and next administration > won't make a morality section a

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread Mike S
At 05:23 PM 11/16/2004, James M. Polk wrote... >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt > >I do not see why this ID should be limited to the Routing area... Morals exist at layer 3, and are therefore related to Routing. Ethics exist at layer 2

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread Bob Hinden
Ole, At 03:03 PM 11/16/2004, Ole Jacobsen wrote: Indeed. People polled after the election said they put Moral Values as the #1 priorty. I see no reason why the previous and next administration won't make a morality section a requirement in all published docs. We should be proactive and create a mo

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread James M. Polk
At 06:44 PM 11/16/2004 -0500, Mike S wrote: At 05:23 PM 11/16/2004, James M. Polk wrote... >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirement s-00.txt > >I do not see why this ID should be limited to the Routing area... Morals exist at layer 3, and are therefore related to

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread Fred Baker
At 03:57 PM 11/16/04 -0800, Bob Hinden wrote: We should be proactive and create a morality area in the IETF. The morality ADs can review and vote Discuss if the Morality Considerations section in drafts being reviewed by the IESG is not adequate. Do the Morality ADs get to wear funny clothes? In

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread Spencer Dawkins
From: "Fred Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:57 PM 11/16/04 -0800, Bob Hinden wrote: We should be proactive and create a morality area in the IETF. The morality ADs can review and vote Discuss if the Morality Considerations section in drafts being reviewed by the IESG is not adequate. Do the Mo

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread Tim Bray
On Nov 16, 2004, at 3:57 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: We should be proactive and create a morality area in the IETF. The morality ADs can review and vote Discuss if the Morality Considerations section in drafts being reviewed by the IESG is not adequate. I would volunteer for such a job, bearing in mi

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread James M. Polk
At 06:39 PM 11/16/2004 -0800, Fred Baker wrote: At 03:57 PM 11/16/04 -0800, Bob Hinden wrote: We should be proactive and create a morality area in the IETF. The morality ADs can review and vote Discuss if the Morality Considerations section in drafts being reviewed by the IESG is not adequate. D

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-16 Thread Frank Solensky
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 20:58 -0600, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > From: "Fred Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Do the Morality ADs get to wear funny clothes? > > > > Inquiring minds want to know... > > I would love to be on NomCom when they open the envelope and read the > desired characteristics for

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-17 Thread Olaf M. Kolkman
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:57:37 -0800 Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We should be proactive and create a morality area in the IETF. The > morality ADs can review and vote Discuss if the Morality Considerations > section in drafts being reviewed by the IESG is not adequate. I nominate B

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-17 Thread Ole Jacobsen
Hardly a moral model, I mean look at some of the stuff Bert engages in: http://bert.secret-wg.org/Kisses/index.html ...and that's the censored stuff. OK, OK, back to AdminRest or something equally sobering :-) Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Academi

Re: draft-farrel-rtg-morality-requirements-00.txt

2004-11-17 Thread Geoff Huston
At 08:15 PM 17/11/2004, Olaf M. Kolkman wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:57:37 -0800 Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We should be proactive and create a morality area in the IETF. The > morality ADs can review and vote Discuss if the Morality Considerations > section in drafts being reviewe