Re: draft-hoffman-additional-key-words-00.txt

2008-01-21 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 11:10 AM +1300 1/16/08, Brian E Carpenter wrote: The careful approach needed for phasing crypto algorithms in and out may justify such terminology. However, I think there is experience that careless use, in particular of SHOULD+, which has crept into some non-IETF documents such as

Re: draft-hoffman-additional-key-words-00.txt

2008-01-21 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Paul, On 2008-01-22 09:55, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 11:10 AM +1300 1/16/08, Brian E Carpenter wrote: ... The concept supplements not only RFC 2119 but also the discussion of requirement levels in RFC 2026 section 3.3. I think that should be mentioned. That section of RFC 2026 talks about

Re: draft-hoffman-additional-key-words-00.txt

2008-01-18 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
At 12:49 16/01/2008, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 1:43 PM -0500 1/15/08, John C Klensin wrote: A different version of the same thinking would suggest that any document needing these extended keywords is not ready for standardization and should be published as Experimental and left there until the

draft-hoffman-additional-key-words-00.txt

2008-01-15 Thread John C Klensin
This document doesn't identify a mailing list for discussion, so I guess it goes here. The abstract says... Some document authors want to express requirement levels using the traditional definitions of MUST and SHOULD from RFC 2119, but also want to express that there is an expectation that

Re: draft-hoffman-additional-key-words-00.txt

2008-01-15 Thread Alexey Melnikov
John C Klensin wrote: Translation: this seems like an interesting idea, but the concepts are, IMO, probably much better expressed in nuanced text rather than in cute codes. A different version of the same thinking would suggest that any document needing these extended keywords is not ready

Re: draft-hoffman-additional-key-words-00.txt

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 1:43 PM -0500 1/15/08, John C Klensin wrote: Translation: this seems like an interesting idea, but the concepts are, IMO, probably much better expressed in nuanced text rather than in cute codes. This document does not prohibit, or even suggest against, individual documents coming up with

Re: draft-hoffman-additional-key-words-00.txt

2008-01-15 Thread Brian E Carpenter
The careful approach needed for phasing crypto algorithms in and out may justify such terminology. However, I think there is experience that careless use, in particular of SHOULD+, which has crept into some non-IETF documents such as procurement specifications, has great potential for confusion.