review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-eap-mutual

2010-05-26 Thread Dan Harkins
Hello, Here are some comments on this draft for IETF LC. There are some editorial nits, some errors that might be considered editorial but there is a serious issue with the Security Considerations that I think needs addressing. I'll start with the security issue since it's the most serious

Re: review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-eap-mutual

2010-05-26 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 2:22 PM -0700 5/26/10, Dan Harkins wrote: >I would advise a DISCUSS on this draft until this has been worked out. Can you say more about what you mean by "worked out"? More text in the Security Considerations? If so, at least an outline would be helpful. Or maybe you mean one or more chan

Re: review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-eap-mutual

2010-05-26 Thread Dan Harkins
Hi Paul, What I said was: "I think there has to be a top-down analysis of RFC 4301 and how this scheme impacts it. Each part of RFC 4301 that cannot be supported or can only be supported in a limited manner must be spelled out and the impact of the lack, or limit, of support h

Re: review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-eap-mutual

2010-05-27 Thread Yaron Sheffer
Hi Dan, Thanks for reviewing this document. Responding to your main point: The need to correlate the client's EAP and IKE identity is not new to this protocol. It has to be done in exactly the same manner, for exactly the same reasons, in today's IKEv2. This is what IKEv2-bis says about it:

Re: review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-eap-mutual

2010-05-28 Thread Dan Harkins
Hi Yaron, I see your point. IKEv2-bis completely punts the issue and so you want to too. If that's your tact you might want to mention _how_ an implementation is supposed to interoperate with a AAA server, like an RFC that defines this behavior. If there is no RFC to define the behavior you w