RE: [ietf-dkim] Mailing lists as 2822-Sender

2007-12-03 Thread Bill.Oxley
A mailing list is an original mail object that is comprised of vetted submitted material much like a newspaper. It should take submitted material, empty the accompanied envelope and remail using a fresh clean envelope with new headers. Thanks, Bill Oxley Messaging Engineer Cox Communications 404

Re: [ietf-dkim] Mailing lists as 2822-Sender

2007-12-03 Thread Dave Crocker
Bill, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A mailing list is an original mail object that is comprised of vetted submitted material much like a newspaper. It should take submitted material, empty the accompanied envelope and remail using a fresh clean envelope with new headers. In the abstract, the model

Re: [ietf-dkim] Mailing lists as 2822-Sender

2007-12-03 Thread Douglas Otis
On Dec 3, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Dave Crocker wrote: Bill, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A mailing list is an original mail object that is comprised of vetted submitted material much like a newspaper. It should take submitted material, empty the accompanied envelope and remail using a fresh clean

[ietf-dkim] Updated agenda for tomorrow

2007-12-03 Thread Stephen Farrell
Couple of additions. [1] (IETF tools page [2] will update sometime, not sure when.) AOB time now down to about 15 mins. Regards, Stephen. [1] http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07dec/agenda/dkim.txt [2] http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dkim/agenda ___ NOTE WELL

[ietf-dkim] Review of DKIM Sender Signing Practices (draft-ietf-dkim-ssp-01)

2007-12-03 Thread Dave Crocker
Review of: DKIM Sender Signing Practices (draft-ietf-dkim-ssp-01) Reviewed by: D. Crocker 4 December 2007 The DKIM working group has followed its specification of a base method for associating a responsible identity to an email, via cryptographic signing, with the curre

Re: [ietf-dkim] Review of DKIM Sender Signing Practices (draft-ietf-dkim-ssp-01)

2007-12-03 Thread John Levine
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >Review of: > > DKIM Sender Signing Practices (draft-ietf-dkim-ssp-01) Wow, thanks for a very thorough review. The biggest problem with this draft is that it goes way beyond defining a protocol. Part of it describes the way that senders publish

Re: [ietf-dkim] Review of DKIM Sender Signing Practices (draft-ietf-dkim-ssp-01)

2007-12-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 03 December 2007 23:23, John Levine wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >Review of: > > > > DKIM Sender Signing Practices (draft-ietf-dkim-ssp-01) > > Wow, thanks for a very thorough review. > > The biggest problem with this draft is that it goes way beyond > de

Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP sender expectations

2007-12-03 Thread John Levine
> While senders certainly can't dictate receiver policy, giving an > indication of what they expect to have happen is perfectly > reasonable and reduces uncertainty. Uncertainty about what? You can be 100% certain that if you've published your policies in SSP, any receiver who cares to know about

Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP sender expectations

2007-12-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On 4 Dec 2007 05:40:27 - John Levine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> While senders certainly can't dictate receiver policy, giving an >> indication of what they expect to have happen is perfectly >> reasonable and reduces uncertainty. > >Uncertainty about what? You can be 100% certain that if yo