Re: [ietf-dkim] Some responsibility

2010-11-01 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Rolf E. Sonneveld wrote: > I'm not very happy with the introduction of the word 'some' in front of > 'responsibility'. The way it is mentioned now is like one can say > 'somewhat dead' or 'a bit pregnant'. It involves domains. For comparison with the web, how would we describe the varying degr

Re: [ietf-dkim] Some responsibility

2010-11-01 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
> -Original Message- > From: ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org [mailto:ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org] > On Behalf Of Graham Murray > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:51 PM > To: ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org > Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Some responsibility > > > DKIM is no position today to provi

Re: [ietf-dkim] Some responsibility

2010-11-01 Thread Hector Santos
Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >> Graham Murray >> claims to do the opposite. What it does provide is assurance of >> acceptance of liability for messages which are signed. ie if a message >> is DKIM signed, the signer cannot later claim "It was nothing to do with >> me, it must have been a forgery"

Re: [ietf-dkim] Proposal for new text about multiple header issues

2010-11-01 Thread Douglas Otis
On 10/30/10 3:05 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On 28/Oct/10 03:36, Douglas Otis wrote: >> I'll repeat the example given previously. The multiple listing of a >> header in the h= parameter can not mitigate exploitation of DKIM PASS >> results where a valuable domain is prefixed to that of large do

Re: [ietf-dkim] Some responsibility

2010-11-01 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
On 11/1/10 6:01 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org [mailto:ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org] >> On Behalf Of Graham Murray >> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:51 PM >> To: ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org >> Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Some res

Re: [ietf-dkim] Some responsibility

2010-11-01 Thread John R. Levine
Putting on my native speaker of American dialect hat, I don't see a useful difference between "responsibility" and "some responsibility" in this context. In practice they mean the same thing, and neither means "total responsibility." If someone goes to the effort of signing a message and publi