Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades

2011-05-21 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 20/May/11 15:33, John Levine wrote: >>> of what paths are likely to downcode a message and what paths aren't, >>> so I would prefer not to purport to offer advice about it. >> >>Actually, I kinda prefer to leave it in. It seems to me "assume a >>downgrade will happen unless you're certain it wo

Re: [ietf-dkim] Last Call: (DKIM And Mailing Lists) to BCP

2011-05-21 Thread Barry Leiba
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:38 PM, John Levine wrote: > I'd suggest publishing it as Informational or Experimental rather than > BCP. As DKIM chair, I'd like to reply to this and other messages in this thread that discuss the status of the subject document: There was extensive discussion in the DK

Re: [ietf-dkim] Last Call: (DKIM And Mailing Lists) to BCP

2011-05-21 Thread John R. Levine
> As chair, I can say that consensus was to make this normative, not > experimental. With the best will in the world, I was there, and I saw no such consensus. The closest thing I can find in a quick search of the archive is this note, which says that the group agreed on one thing (that lists s

Re: [ietf-dkim] Last Call: (DKIM And Mailing Lists) to BCP

2011-05-21 Thread Barry Leiba
>> As chair, I can say that consensus was to make this normative, not >> experimental. > > With the best will in the world, I was there, and I saw no such consensus. We discussed it live at IETF 80, and I posted the following minutes to the mailing list on 28 March: 3. Discussion of mailinglists

Re: [ietf-dkim] Last Call: (DKIM And Mailing Lists) to BCP

2011-05-21 Thread John R. Levine
> 2. Should this be Informational or BCP? > a: BCP, making it clear when we're insufficiently certain about > something. > Last Call will sort out any objections. Well, I couldn't afford to go, so I can't say you're wrong, and I don't know why I didn't see that on the list. I gue