Re: [ietf-dkim] Weird i= in client mail

2013-06-19 Thread John R. Levine
> Now on the other hand, if an administrative domain wanted to go to the > trouble to authenticate down to the user level, we didn't want to prevent > that, either. The primary audience for DKIM includes regulated industries, > after all. Seems to me that works fine as is. If a stock broker wa

Re: [ietf-dkim] Weird i= in client mail

2013-06-19 Thread Jon Callas
I want to add in a bit here as well. In doing the crypto/security parts of DKIM, we had two goals in tension with each other. One was to provide accountability for a message for all the obvious good reasons. But in the other direction, we didn't want DKIM to accidentally turn email into an alw

Re: [ietf-dkim] value-added DKIM-ish enhancements )was - Re: Weird i= in client mail)

2013-06-19 Thread Douglas Otis
On Jun 18, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > It needs a method of declaring its presence, such as an extra > header field or a special external query, but after that, it's free to > define anything it wants, including a public meaning for i= > > ATPS did exactly this. It m